dhs10 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hello does anybody know where I can get the drawings/dimensions for a Ariel HT 1954 rigid frame, I have found a website which mentions Jim Susan's Bikecraft and it says he has retired. I have attached a picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Hi Guy,s Hi Dhs. I think you need to get in touch with John Bartram , or Paul Jackson . Devon and Yorkshire respectively . They will give you guidance into what frame you. Want, both first class Ariel frame builders. Regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 I can put you in touch with the owner of this old concrete mixer if its any help.I don't know about Paul Jackson,but I tink John Bartram only does springer frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhs10 Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Thanks for the replies I am hoping to see the concrete mixer at the VMCC trial at Chedworth in a couple of weeks. Is Paul Jackson still making frames, I heard he had also finished making frames? Any contact details? I was hoping to get the rigid version any other Ideas where I can get plans Jigs, Drawings anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 He should be there,I'll be crashing around on "Ted breffitt's" Norton,saving my Ht for the Talmag.... Sorry,I don't know if Paul Jackson is still making frames. I've got an original HT springer frame in for repairs, I guess you could make up the dimensions for a rigid rear from that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Hi Guy's. Dhs. When I next get our Rigid Ariel out of its compound I can take some photos and dimension's for you if you like. Mick Andrews rode it about at the Classic Trials Show. I still think John Bartram may build a rigid frame.try him. Regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhs10 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Ok thanks I will try John Bartram, I would really like to try and get the frame I posted in the picture it makes a get looking bike (I hope it handles as good as it looks). If you wouldn't mind taking some photo's and some dimensions that would be really helpful. I have somebody to make the frame so all I need is to borrow a frame or get the original drawings. Thanks again best regards Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hi, I'm fairly confident that the 'Ariel rigid' depicted in the original query is one of Jim Susans' bikes, created whilst he was still operating 'Bikecraft'. If you want to build an actual Ariel HT replica frame, then the enclosed picture might deter you - I'm sure those used to modern 'so called' pre-65 sections will claim it would be unrideable, but look for yourself. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hi Guys. Deryk it was a Susan's frame in the picture, The one we have could be a Bartrams , I think the steering head angle is far to slack on our bike, but then ,they always were. Regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie prescott Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Hi Guy,s. Is that Arthur Walton on the rigid Ariel above?? looks like it might be. regards Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Hi Charlie, 'Tis indeed Arthur - part of an article that I did on Celia and Arthur in the chariot gang - article is in the offroadarchive and I'm getting closer by the minute to having the archive available on the web. One of the features of the archive is that I have thousands of images that I never got to use in ORR or any of the twelve books that I wrote and/or published - and it is taking a little effort in sorting. 'Tis coming - and before long......... Deryk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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