hughandjen Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi New to the forum. Just bought a 1974 montesa cota 247. I have no docs, but have tracked down a previous owner who has supplied me with a copy of the original log book. Clearly states number and engine and fame numbers. DVLA say they have no records for the number and are reluctant to let me have it. I gave sent them the copy of the reg document, but they want a club to say that the numbers match. As far as I can find there is no uk Montesa owners club. Any ideas what I should do. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerorev3rev4 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 try getting a hpi report ,back it up with a letter from a dealer that can back age up ,i would of just sent for a v5 and seen what happened the copy should have been enough the details poss got lost when they went computerised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I'm guessing you have a copy of the old green hand written logbook, not a V5? The problem is that the number was most likely never recorded at DVLA when registration number recording changed from paper records to computerised in mid / late 70s. This was done automatically when the vehicle was next taxed but if it wasn't taxed the registration number wasn't recorded on the computer. Owners were given to about 1982 to apply for a V5 for vehicles that were 'off the road' and if they didn't, the reg number was effectively lost. So even though you have logbook with all the vehicle details, DVLA have no record of the number, so won't issue you with a V5. Vintage Motorcycle Club in Burton on Trent can help you with this. Speak to Annice in the Library section http://www.vmcc.net/ They are on the DVLA approved list of clubs that can verify the age of vehicles. If they don't have information on Montesa chassis numbers, if you can show them a website from a Montesa specialist that does, such as Southwest Montesa, they will use that as verification of the details and also add it to their own library of information. Take photos of the chassis number and engine number (latter not really that critical) as well as full side on photos of the bike as VMCC will probably want to see them. If you can find sales brochure pictures from the period, use those also. If you speak to Annice she will advise exactly what you need to do. They'll charge for the service but it isn't much At worst, if you can't reclaim the original number, you can apply for a new registration on an age related plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughandjen Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Thanks that's a great help. Yes your right it is a copy of the old log book not the V5. I will contact Annice for help Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinshock giles Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 In the past I was told in the absence of an owners club etc they (the DVLA) would accept information gathered from the internet, frame numbers of existing registered bikes etc as sufficent proof of age, this was in the days when they would come out to inspect the bike though or you could go to your local office with it, so may sadly be irrelevent now. It was the inspection guy who told me this whilst looking at my Mk12 Pursang and trying to persuade me not to have a q plate on it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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