bossmonkeyman Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Hi there wonderd if anyone could help me. Today ive been to look at a bike a 99 gas gas txt 250. Before I purchase the bike I thought id check online to see if the bike had ever been stolen.as one dnt want to throw a lot of money away on someone elses bike. I gt the frame vin number off the bike put in online vic checks an it just keeps comin up invalid vin could anyone shed any light on y this could be the bike looks straight an original no signs of tamperin numbers ground anything.as the numbers on the frame an also on a black tag.its from a nice posh house.but I dt understand y in vin check it comes up invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 you took the vin from the frame did it match the vin on the v5c? many vehicles have a single figure or so wrong between frame and v5c and dvla usuallly sort this out when the MOT comes along .. HOWEVER since the dvla moved almost exclusively to swansea and paper based enquries many vehicles are been found to be incorrect and dvla have started taking a very strict line. if you cant prove there is a VERY good reason for the two to differ they will withdraw the v5c and you have to apply again including the various vehicle checks /tests. a sports car with a very well logged history, carrying the same number plate for over 45 years has just had its v5c withdrawn by dvla never to be returned due to inaccuracies in paperwork dating back to the 70's.. its value fell from 8k to 1k overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Could it be something as simple as it has never been road registered ? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmonkeyman Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 IT COULD BE THE FACT ITS NEVER BEEN ON THE ROAD.i thought tho that the manufacturer would register the vin when made seens im checking off road vin checks.sorry if I sound thick just a new phase im goin threw likin me trials bikes. as for first reply there is no v5 with the bike as off road.but I thought the vin of the frame would still be registerd as leaves production.for instance I buy a brand new off road trials bike gas gas bring it from the shop surely the maker of the vehicle registers the vin number so I cme back with a bike from shop 17 digit frame number an there only me wrote on me receipt the frame number of the brand new bike surely it would be registerd other wise people could bang any number on there stolen bikes to sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamspad5 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Pm sent. Regards Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmonkeyman Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 so basically then if the bikes never been registerd on road how can I check to see if its stolen usin the frame numbers or are they there only for if I wanted to register it on road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 the vin is what it says, a vehicle identification number how you choose to use it is up to you. manufacturers use them to identify production quantities/ date of manufacture and model/ specification. dvla use them to link to a registration document (V5c) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmonkeyman Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 so basically im all good to purchase.ive run the frame number threw google there no forums with it mentioned so must be all clear.but if I purchase the bike I need to keep these numbers I have extremely safe wrote down so if someone pinches it I can tell the police that my bike as been stolen.but then someone could sell it online an new buyer never to know until they run across the law.an then sell an sell.an if I dnt have the numbers wrote dwn an it got knicked then the theif gets a bike for free.that's all legal to them.as I forgot to keep me numbers wrote dwn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 so basically im all good to purchase.ive run the frame number threw google there no forums with it mentioned so must be all clear.but if I purchase the bike I need to keep these numbers I have extremely safe wrote down so if someone pinches it I can tell the police that my bike as been stolen.but then someone could sell it online an new buyer never to know until they run across the law.an then sell an sell.an if I dnt have the numbers wrote dwn an it got knicked then the theif gets a bike for free.that's all legal to them.as I forgot to keep me numbers wrote dwn. Eh? Because Google doesn't throw up the frame number it must be clean? There are plenty stolen bikes listed on here where the victim doesn't list the frame number. Google means nothing. Oh, and BTW, your 'o' key doesn't seem to be working properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffsgasgas Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) Cme n Andy! The guy is n the verge of ether buying a stlen or awesme bke! He's excted!!! N ne has tme fr vwles!!! Btw Your "i" may also be ntermtent. Get it checked out through the local police only after you negotiate the price. --Biff Edited April 1, 2014 by biffsgasgas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusjack Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 He spells like he is typing a text message and of the younger generation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 write your post code phone number in that ink that shows up under ultra violet on the frame engine forks then if it ever does get taken without the owners permission it ll be easy to prove it was yours.. also data tagging is a good idea ( other systems are available) but most of all enjoy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats_a_five Posted April 1, 2014 Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 I have no idea what a v5c is, I assume it is some government issued paperwork. I have had bikes where the VIN did not match the paperwork and was fortunately able to prove that the bike was not stolen. Here are a couple problems I have dealt with: Check for characters that are easily confused. S and 5, Z and 2, O and 0. I had a bike with documentation that had incorrectly put in the system with a letter O that was really a number 0 on the bike. Check for incomplete imprinting of the number on the frame. I had a bike where the VIN had been stamped into the frame but not deep enough. One digit looked very much like a 6 but was actually an 8. The paperwork said 8 and after scrubbing the frame with a brass brush, it became obvious that the 6 was indeed an 8. I applaud the original poster's actions to check the VIN before buying the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted April 2, 2014 Report Share Posted April 2, 2014 Contact DVLA and get it registered - Free if for offroad use only. Registration is a useful anti theft measure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyted Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Dad f2 , s 's a large angry d g and sh tgun ,h h h iv'e cracked a funny. My humor aside it's a good idea in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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