jam Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 Don't know which to go for, had 280 but felt too much at high revs, like 250 pro 2006. Don't like other makes, Mont too much. Rode RTL back in the late 80's. Had a 93 250 and loved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 I think you've answered your own question there. Although.... have you tried/thought about a 300? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtt Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 300 is very grunty. Encourages you to ride at lower rpms I find. Very smooth and controlled. Try one if you can, think it may fit the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonty Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 (edited) Nigel, do you think the bikes ridden by the people you mention above bear much resemblance to the bikes purchased by us mere mortals? When I bought my son's first Gas Gas the supplying dealer said "if you're riding it you'll love it, if you're paying for the repairs you'll hate it" and he was right! After umpteen gearbox rebuilds, new clutches, broken rear suspension linkages (none of which happened with his Montesa or Beta bikes) I'm heartily fed up the gasser. Fine if you have factory or dealer support.(and I'm being a bit careful here)! Edited August 2, 2005 by Jonty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Other makes also go wrong. My 04 Beta Rev3 had three stators in just 5 trials. The second stator only managed one event. The Gas Gas 250 it replaced had completed at least 100 trials from new and never once failed to finish an event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 Strangely enough the gas gas that you and I can buy do bear alot of resemblence to the works and other guys, were you at Hawkstone or not. Gearbox failures are uncommon considering the number sold and I wonder why some people have nothing but reliability prblems then others no serious issues regardless of make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowly Posted August 3, 2005 Report Share Posted August 3, 2005 (edited) If you gave Raga's gasser to 90% of the people riding trials do you think they would ride better or worse? Edited August 3, 2005 by Rowly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpa3 Posted August 4, 2005 Report Share Posted August 4, 2005 Had a go on a Raga rep recently. Talk about ride like plonker. Couldn't use 25% of that bike, makes me realise how good the top guys really are. At least on my Scorpa I can use 26% :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombleds Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 i had an 04 Raga Trick bike light as they come plenty of power(too much for me I changed ignition curve to softest) I had a hard time with it Either the front end was wheeling or the rear was spinning It really was the wrong bike for my ability level. I have a mont 4rt and am much happier with it it suits my style much better I dont have the ability to hop the bike around on its rear tire!!! it was a trick bike though wish I was up to its level Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windlestone Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 I have a 250 gas gas 02. no real problems just the usual maintainence. Power suits mefine but i found a 280 to severe for me. If i weighed less and wanted a gas gas i would consider a 200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colly Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 ride a 280 pro with a kehin carb on, slow throttle and i lurve it, ride it really slow speeds and low rpms and it just pulls like a train, its not to much not till little just right. windlestone what is your name, i was at that eastgate trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting32 Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 (edited) Don't know which to go for, had 280 but felt too much at high revs, like 250 pro 2006. Don't like other makes, Mont too much. Rode RTL back in the late 80's.Had a 93 250 and loved it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To JAM... You got your heart set on the new bikes? Well, I would heartily suggest finding one fine older example TXT era (99-02) machine IMHO. get yer skills up, then get a pro. BTW, nothing bad about new, but the TXT's were lots more indestructible, plus *trail* ridable, and IMHO closer to the bikes you used to ride (rtl)... yet they really are relatively competitive up easily to intermediate & expert levels. Anywho... You know the saying, the master rider can beat me (you) on an oooold ty250 on most days, so it seldom is the bike holding you back in trials. It is just a suggestion, I came from expert class last ride in '83, was on a 79 Sherpa-t. The 321 was awesome for me gave me some Sherpa familiar power and stuff, with the new tech & suspension to learn. But if you are a master lever rider (or was) maybe then by golly you will adapt quickly to the new bikes, It took me a few months. BTW I have a Pro 300 now, they seem wicked (scary) for about the 1st 10 rides, after that you'll telling yourself, "Self, why didn't I start with this bike" hehehee but the answer was, because you and your skills were the only holdup... it is all about getting used to it. The 300 made me re-learn how to control the bike, now I actually use the part that scared me at 1st, and love it. Edited August 12, 2005 by Sting32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physco Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 i have had 55 brand new 250 gas gas trials machines since xmas 1992,yes i am a spoilt brat but so what???.go for a new 250 and you will not go far wrong,trust me!!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physco Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 add to my 55 gassers,4 ossa,s,2 swm,s,6 majesty,s,1 gori,1 armstrong,3 mono-shock yams,=72!!!!!,this does not include my second-hand,bsa bantam,dalesman and my bultaco!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windlestone Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 ride a 280 pro with a kehin carb on, slow throttle and i lurve it, ride it really slow speeds and low rpms and it just pulls like a train, its not to much not till little just right. windlestone what is your name, i was at that eastgate trial. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> are you stalking me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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