mags Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 MMMmmmm! Somewhere on last ride my side stand rubber fell out on my new 4RT. I did an interim repair with plastic hose and zip clip. Didn't want the metal stand potentially rubbing on the thin carbon fibre swing arm protector. Here is permanent fix... I grabbed a 5mm Nutcert which was closest to the diameter of the hole drilled in the side stand for the rubber knob. I had to drill the hole to 7mm diameter for the Nutcert which was only about 0.5mm bigger than the stock hole size. I then inserted and locked the Nutcert in the hole with pressing tool which gives a permanent 5mm thread where the hole was, see pics. I found a plastic button thingy in my spares/never throw out box to use as the button for the 5mm allen head I put in the Nutcert. Actually I found two so have a spare! Can remember what it is but it looks like some from a tent pole or button to screw on for elastic expander ropes on an esky maybe??? It may wear the carbon eventually but nylon type plastic may not even mark it???? I'll keep an eye on it. Easy glue a bit of thin rubber on carbon guard. Pics ... Mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Good one, get a Mitani one though Twice the performance & half the weight Most people junk the Honda stand as it bends easily & then the bike falls over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted June 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Johnny, The Mitani sidestand is around $500 landed here in Australia I'll stick with my mod for a bit!!!! I will hint to the wife Xmas is NOT that far away!! Mags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 How much? Blimey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old ozzie Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I found that the bike stood to upright on the standard side stand, had to be very careful when parking out bush and if I left it idling on concrete in my shed it would fall over (luckily I caught it before it hit the deck). So I shortened it by 12mm and now she just leans over enough that it doesn't fall over when idling and is much more stable when parking out bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted June 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Johnny, UK site has Mitani for 180 pound... conversion to Aussie dollars is about $350... $100 for freight and then some for import duty and GST (VAT) might be $550 even? How much? Blimey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted June 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Damn Mate! I thought I was the only wally thinking my bike always tries to fall over.... I have even made a strap that goes from stand to holes in bash plate to keep stand as forward as possible. Stops the stand going up when you don't want it to as well! It has been ok on dirt (just) if you are really careful where you park BUT the thing is positively dangerous on concrete!!! I also nearly lost it warming it up at home on shed floor! So 12mm is good enough huh? Did you just cut and re-weld? Did you feel the need to use a small piece of tube to fit inner I.D of stand, leave 2mm gap and weld? Linnish smooth and repaint in metallic silver??? Cut between rubber button and bottom of stand you reckon???? The paint is chipping off mine in two places so I was going to get it chromed???? I might remake it in ally, eventually??? Mags I found that the bike stood to upright on the standard side stand, had to be very careful when parking out bush and if I left it idling on concrete in my shed it would fall over (luckily I caught it before it hit the deck). So I shortened it by 12mm and now she just leans over enough that it doesn't fall over when idling and is much more stable when parking out bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizza5 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Most people junk the Honda stand as it bends easily & then the bike falls over Lot of people take their side stand off I have done for years, always a tree or a rock to lean the bike against. Only ever put it back on for the SSDT and in all fairness that causes more problems sometimes to get the bike stood up in Park Ferme after the Scottish rockery did its best at modify it?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perce Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'd have thought a Mitani style stand could be knocked up out of an old set of handlebars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stkman Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Hi Mags, I took my 4RT stand off 7 years ago ... they aren't great at all. A friend has purchased an aluminium one from Banyeres in Spain. http://www.jbanyeres.com/en/chasis/2260-caballete-aluminio-rtl-2t-4t-ligero.html Good price, the Spanish VAT is taken off before calculating the cost and shipping is very resonable. Is a good solution if you want a stand that works. I am really happy without one. Andrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) Thanks Andrew! Might come in a bit cheaper from there, probably around $350 landed? Still pretty expensive for a stand? I'm slowly gathering some worship equipment for home as I've fabricated stuff since a boy. So far have a Kempe Digital TIG welder, a plasma cutter, band saw et cetera. The icing will be my Auto feed Mill and then a good lathe! Be a project to make my own stand??? In titanium tube maybe? Especially as my labour is free for my stuff. I may be happy later on to not have a stand but for now its handy for parking the bike at camp or on a creek top to give my wife a "spot" as she tries a scary bit for her! Mags Edited June 18, 2014 by mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Johnny, UK site has Mitani for 180 pound... conversion to Aussie dollars is about $350... $100 for freight and then some for import duty and GST (VAT) might be $550 even? Sorry to hear that they work out like that One of the best mods on mine as I can park in anywhere and it folds up out of the way, with the foot above the spindle - so doesn't get caught up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old ozzie Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Hey mags, yer I just cut it off rite at the base plate, then cut 12mm off the tube and butt welded base plate strait back on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warby beta Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Lot of people take their side stand off I have done for years, always a tree or a rock to lean the bike against. Only ever put it back on for the SSDT and in all fairness that causes more problems sometimes to get the bike stood up in Park Ferme after the Scottish rockery did its best at modify it?? This, mine got torn off on its second outing. Now a tree, rock, post, bank or even the floor, if required, is used. At least there's no chance of it hitting the deck if its already there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Last outing saw the stand holding bike too upright, AGAIN! And the subsequent whinge to my wife resulted in her saying... "Fix it this week will ya"! So I cut the 12mm out, about 50mm up from foot, ground a bevel on each end and welded it back up. Painted it flat black for now and investigating getting it alloy ceramic coated to look like alloy instead of steel. Bike sits so much better now! 12mm seems the right chop! Mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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