mmmexico Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 My TY 175 is progressing nicely. I have read on this forum the mixed results that people have had with the Electrix World system. Some have said some very nice things, others have had no luck and everyone seems to agree that they are not especially communicative with their customers. In my case, I sent several e-mails and none received any response at all. When I ordered an "electronic ignition" from an American source, the Electrix World unit arrived. So...that's what I am using. The unit appears to be very well made, but as you can see from the photograph, the unit just doesn't quite match up, so I'm going to have to be doing some grinding with my Dremel tool on the engine case. No big deal, but why couldn't they have done a better job?? I have a couple of questions about the unit itself. First of all, how is the spark triggered? With a points system, it is obviously clear. With the CDI systems that I am familiar with, there is some sort of a mechanical, electromechanical trigger associated with some part of the motor, usually the flywheel. With this unit, there is no obvious trigger. How does it work? Secondly, how much success have you guys had adjusting the timing of this unit? The instructions simply say that the unit will provide a good spark as delivered in the box, and any further adjustment will require a timing light and the creation of timing marks on the magneto flywheel. Have you found that necessary? Hope to hear from you guys about your adventures with this unit Mike meditativemachinery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) I would email your photo to the supplier and ask them if they think the stator plate they have supplied is faulty before cutting metal from your engine case. Get their permission to cut away their part instead. If there is no sign of a timing trigger the system almost certainly uses the change of polarity at maximum voltage to signal the CDI. This type of system gives similar / same timing to points. Edited June 19, 2014 by dadof2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'd suggest you're going to have to be very forceful with them as a mate of mine has an issue with his Montesa ignition which has been going on for 3 to 4 years now, their support service has been abysmal. It was returned to them again about 3 weeks ago for probably the third or fourth time and they still haven't got in touch with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinshock giles Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) I had dealings with them about 8 years ago and they were really good, its a shame if they have gone down hill as they were genuinely interested when i spoke to someone on the technical side of things about a non-standard application they were exceptionally helpful + the stator and CDI they supplied worked perfectly. Don't know how big an operation they are now but you might get a better response from a phone call maybe? But yes as above thats not right you shouldn't have to mess about dremeling to make things fit (well, not unless you are too tight to buy the right part like me) i'de speak to your supplier about it Edit - sorry didn't notice before the company I dealt with was Electrex World not Electrix World don't know if they are one and the same or not. Edited June 19, 2014 by twinshock giles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 I helped fit an Electrex ignition to a friend's Ty175 about 3 years ago and did not come across that problem you are illustrating. Maybe the kit you were sent is for a different bike. I know that the Ty175 and Ty250 backing plates are similar but different so it could be that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickgolf_0 Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 I just received one of the same units , its exactly the same , wont line up . I called them just now but no one technical to speak to , they say they will ring me back > Lets see ! Its an easy fix however its a new part , I should not be having to machine anything . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 They've actually withdrawn their technical help phone number from the website, they only have a sales number now You have to email them for technical help and wait for a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty_jon Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 No need for technical help, this is simply a case of “not fit for purpose” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 In the ideal world, I agree with you However, this is Electrex world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickgolf_0 Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 No return phone call , very poor showing ! Time to turn up the heat ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty_jon Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 In the ideal world, I agree with you However, this is Electrex world... It doesn’t matter who they are, that’s what trading standards are for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada280i Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 In the interest of getting the bike running, why not just file a little off the plate itself rather than modding the case. It looks like it would only take a little filing to get it in place. I know it is supposed to fit but the alternative is to wait for a replacement that may end up having the same issue anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 In the interest of getting the bike running, why not just file a little off the plate itself rather than modding the case. It looks like it would only take a little filing to get it in place. I know it is supposed to fit but the alternative is to wait for a replacement that may end up having the same issue anywayMaybe it is because we both live so far from the UK, but this is my take on the problem too. I find that there are lots of times that aftermarket parts I buy need a few tweaks to fit properly, not just ignitions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony27 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 The ignition on my 250 needed no modification to fit, the grommet for the cases wasn't perfect but wasn't a issue due to me sealing it up with silicone as a standard practice to ensure water can't get in Do the other mounting screw holes line up? If they do then you may have to slot the hole otherwise it shouldn't take much to rotate the plate enough with a small amount of modification to the plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki250 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 It doesn’t say a lot for the quality if they can’t get the holes in the right place! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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