johnmartin247 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Looking at a Bultaco for sale locally, seller not clued up so can any one identify the model? Cheers John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naichuff Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 W hat does the frame and engine number start with The first number are the model type and size ie.221=175 Sherpa or 198 199 are 250 and 350 Sherpa's Also do they match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmartin247 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Not got that information just now, the guy thinks it's a 370cc so i was hoping that the pictures would help just now. cheers John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike350 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 It could be, judging by the swinging arm. Can you count the gears? If it has 6 that would be good news. Most will have 5. Good luck Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmartin247 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Thanks Mike, would that make it a 199 model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondy Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 looks like a 199A frame but can't really tell if the S/Arm is round are box? if round its off a 199 if box it's off a 198B 199B like mine hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambam_n_chunx Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) LOL No ones mentioned the bottom frame rails making it a late 70`s model, they had round tubed swing arms before the gussets were fitted with the alloy sump models. Still a bargain for £200 Edited September 4, 2014 by bambam_n_chunx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmartin247 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Thanks bondy, waiting on the guy to come back to me as some one is looking at it tonight, so if it is still up for sale he will let me know. Edited September 4, 2014 by johnmartin247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondy Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 oh yes iv'e just noticed the bottom rails well spotted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmartin247 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 LOL No ones mentioned the bottom frame rails making it a late 70`s model, they had round tubed swing arms before the gussets were fitted with the alloy sump models. Still a bargain for £200 Where is it advertised for £200?, add that i have seen is looking for offers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 It's a 1978 model 199 if it's a 350 or a 198 if it's a 250. Originally silver frame and red plastics and mudguards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmartin247 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Thanks woody, guy say's it is 370cc so may be had a rebore at some point, the seat looks like it might be off a different model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambam_n_chunx Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Its been advertised for a few days, if I hadnt been pushed for time i`d have been and bought it. I spoke to the guy who said he wanted £250 then later dropped it to £200 because I found out it was further away than he said. The rear wheel is wrong for the model, looks to be from a much earlier bult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmartin247 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Its been advertised for a few days, if I hadnt been pushed for time i`d have been and bought it. I spoke to the guy who said he wanted £250 then later dropped it to £200 because I found out it was further away than he said. The rear wheel is wrong for the model, looks to be from a much earlier bult. Thanks for that, i have only text messaged the guy to see if it was still for sale, so had not touched on price, great to know that i can get it for £200, he is around 50 miles from me. I have asked him if he could give me the frame/engine numbers to try and identify the model and he has responded and will get them at some point as the bike is in a garage not next to his home. What about the tank and seat, do you think that they are from the correct year? cheers John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Thery won't go to 370cc, it's not possible with a Bultaco piston. The only way to get a 325 Sherpa to 370cc is using an Alpina top end and crank as the 350 Alpina has a longer stroke. The most you can get a 325 Sherpa to using the 85mm 360 Pursang piston, as they did in the 340 Sherpa, is 340cc The tank on the 199 was the alloy type originally, a bigger tank than the plastic tank now fitted which is from the next model. The tanks had a different profile at the rear and seats were shaped to suit the tanks. That looks like the original seat for the alloy tank My eyesight isn't good enough to see the rear wheel in detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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