bondy Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 hello dose any body know the correct torque for the 199b pinch bolts on the yokes? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted October 31, 2014 Report Share Posted October 31, 2014 Why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scot taco Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 15 ft/lb so yes don,t go crazy tight as I have seen a set that where cracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Wow 15 ft/lb that is over 20Nm ? The bolts to the yokes are allen screws in M6 diameter with 1,0mm threads and with grade 8.8 the maximum torque (according DIN 912) is given 10,2 Nm = 7.5ft/lb. As they are bolted in aluminium I wouldn't use so much tension, the handbook of my KTM states 5 Nm for M6 bolts, were many screws are bolted i aluminium, which I think is OK if you realy need a number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem75 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Agreed 7.5ft/lbs is correct. 15 and you'd break the bolts. Bondy torque specifications for bultacos are the same as any other model new or old. Proper torque values are derived from the grade of bolt, and the diameter and thread pitch of a bolt. A 6mm bolt on a bultaco will have the same torque as on a modern honda. I will say the torque settings on engine cases and heads are critical. As are fork yolks. Distortion of the fork tubes is very possible if over torqued. Bottom line use a torque wrench on all critical fasteners. Your elbow doesn't know but your torque wrench will. !!!! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ask greeves Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Hello Bondy, There's so many things to consider...are they the original bolts, which would make them 40years old, have they maybe been overtighten at some time in thier life. Maybe they've been changed, if so are they the correct quality....loads of unknowns. Herewith.......www.nutsboltsandthings.co.uk/information/faq&topic=2 This chart gives torque settings for size and quality also dry or lubed thread. There is one other consideration, let's call it 'mechanical feel'...years of experience, and the 'feel' of a stretching bolt.....this wouldn't really be a consideration, if the bolts were virgin, the threads lubed and the torque wrench accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Agreed 7.5ft/lbs is correct. 15 and you'd break the bolts. Bondy torque specifications for bultacos are the same as any other model new or old. Proper torque values are derived from the grade of bolt, and the diameter and thread pitch of a bolt. A 6mm bolt on a bultaco will have the same torque as on a modern honda. I will say the torque settings on engine cases and heads are critical. As are fork yolks. Distortion of the fork tubes is very possible if over torqued. Bottom line use a torque wrench on all critical fasteners. Your elbow doesn't know but your torque wrench will. !!!! Steve Distorte the leg, how much force are you using ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondy Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 hello guys thanks for the info i only ask as it's the 199b yokes with the threaded yokes it dose not give the torque in my manual my case bolts get 5Nm so ill go with the same cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot taco Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) I wasn,t trying to give you a wrong answer bondy,but reading the other replies 15 does seem too much.I might have mis-interpreted my manual.I was going by what it says under forks,the last setting,'bottom bracket -stanchion tube clamp." I did not know they where threaded yokes so I,m really glad the others chimed in because my answer might have caused you some troubles. I have always done it by feel so I guess I need to think more and research more before I answer questions like this! Thanks to all for a correct answer Edited November 1, 2014 by scot taco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smelling123 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Is the torque wrench in tolerance? If it's not been calibrated you could end up tightening to 6..... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondy Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 hi smelling yes it's wrench so it's ok. iv'e done them now so jobs done cheers guys for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondy Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 all finished new rims and tryes F/R new chain and sprockets new black bars black Amal leavers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondy Posted November 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 199b 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Damn, that bike looks better than new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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