fivebrick Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Was thinking a bit about the physics of trials- in a laymen's sense. Is it possible that a heavier rider may have an advantage over a lighter rider, all other things being equal? The heavier rider gets more traction presumably, and has a greater weight to bike weight ratio. Perhaps the heavier rider has more control in the sense that the heavy rider is less prone to being influenced by the bikes actions. Over a rocky creek for example the bike is reacting to the terrain, can a 200 lb. rider influence the bike to do what he wants more than a 150 lb. rider of equal skill. Does the extra weight make the bike have less "say" in its trajectory and give the rider more control? Anybody have any thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocky Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Trust me.... Its definitely a disadvantage 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degzie Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 no advantage at all - if suspension is set correct for riders weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr neutron Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) It (being overweight) ain't workin' out too well for me personally...... I have dropped about 20-25 lbs., and still need/want to lose another 10-15 lbs.. Riding seems easier not carting around the extra tonnage. It's easier to move around on the bike...... Jimmie Edited December 4, 2014 by mr neutron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1shy Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Didn't work for fat lad from Richmond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Extra weight harder to stop on steep drops and lees acceleration and less agility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nh014 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 In spite of what most are posting, my observations especially while checking, was that in the beginner and novice sections, with riders of equal talent, the heavier rider always seemed to be less prone to being kicked off line. Once you move up in section difficulty, I would agree that weight becomes more of a detriment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivebrick Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 When I posed the question I should have clarified a bit. I don't mean a fatter rider vs a rider with low body fat. I really meant two riders of equal skill, experience and body fat %… etc. I don't think there's any debate that a fatter rider's performance will suffer from most physical contests versus his leaner counterpart. Certainly a 300 lb. lineman with 10% body fat is probably, again all things being equal, a better player than a 300 lb. lineman with 20% BF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivebrick Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 In spite of what most are posting, my observations especially while checking, was that in the beginner and novice sections, with riders of equal talent, the heavier rider always seemed to be less prone to being kicked off line. Once you move up in section difficulty, I would agree that weight becomes more of a detriment. Yes nh014 you nailed what I was thinking when I posted originally, but you said it better than I did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Jeroni Fajardo doesn't weigh much & he seems to ride alright. Doug Lampkin was heavier than all his rivals, but he still won seven consecutive world championships. I'd suggest that unless you are competing with Toni Bou, in which case power to weight ratio will assist you on the biggest steps, there is nothing to it but different bike set up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob214 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 i would love to back down in weight, i hate being over weight. i don't have the energy to haul around all the extras. i also had more energy when lighter. rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Hate to say gravity always works for the lighter rider as long as you are saying same skill. Up,down or in circles. Take a look at all the good up and coming riders. Light as a feather and they fly up a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmark1972 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 I don't think it is, when I think of such questions I always amplify it a bit and have a look. 500lb trials rider vs 75lb trials rider, who's going to have an easier go of it? I am sure there is a sweet spot and of course talent has everything to do with it but these bikes are not very accommodating for super heavy riders. In any case all you can do is practice and make the best of your situation. My NY resolution is to lose 35-40 lbs and I expect this to help me a bunch this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 When I posed the question I should have clarified a bit. I don't mean a fatter rider vs a rider with low body fat. I really meant two riders of equal skill, experience and body fat %… etc. I don't think there's any debate that a fatter rider's performance will suffer from most physical contests versus his leaner counterpart. Certainly a 300 lb. lineman with 10% body fat is probably, again all things being equal, a better player than a 300 lb. lineman with 20% BF. Whats a lineman? Does this have any relevance to trials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Whats a lineman? Does this have any relevance to trials? Think it's something to do with fishing ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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