Which Was The Best Twinshock Front Brake ?

[jon v8]

Domestic Engineer

I cant even claim to be any good at that either...

[woody]

Too late for the yellow card Sparks, I had to yellow card myself from the lathe this evening following a skirmish with an Ossa ignition flywheel. An attempt to lighten one saw it stage a successful bid for freedom from the chuck. 7lbs of spinning mayhem flew across the bench like one of Barnes Wallace's finest creations. Fortunately the direction it took saw it trapped in the corner at the end of the bench where it finally span and bounced itself to rest. If it had come my way, I may well have a new head with Motoplat stamped on it...

A sharp lesson of a little knowledge and ambition far outweighing the skill set.... I did persevere and get it done, but it appears I've taken off too much after trying it on the bike...

I won't mention too much detail of the earlier attempt to pin and weld my broken BSA kickstart shaft, but the attempt to start the bike with the 'repaired' shaft, the subsequent cracking sound and accompanying cry of pain, and a kickstart hanging limply from the shaft, may suggest to some that it wasn't the success it first seemed to be...

Tomorrow will be a spanners only day

[lbhbul]

Next time try chucking on flywheel puller and center in tailstock maybe.

At least you wont wear it.

Have a nice day

Larry

[sparks2]

Eh Up Deryk

Was it you I woke up?
Can't speak with any authority on this because I've never been down t'pit, up chimneys, yes, down t'pit, no. We were more textiles in this neck of the woods.

But I think the man who drove t'winding engine was called the 'Banksman', either that or just the winding engine driver, certainly not engineer.

I think your saying your Great Uncle was an all round machinist (on the machine tools of the day) so could call himself an engineer.

Woody, No Yellow Cards for having a go yourself, just Brownie points. Now, I'm not an engineer, just someone who has learned most things in life by the desperately hard school of trial and error, a few observations:-
When in any doubt, run very slow, with slow feed and small cut, most materials will still cut and risks will be much less.
If things work out you can increase speed a bit.
When cutting a large diameter (such as the flywheel OD), surface speed is up, so lathe RPM can go down.
Cutting speeds are not an exact science, witness the few speeds on older lathes.
Don't worry about the odd kickstart disaster, your bikes are a credit to you.

P.S.

Social Engineering
Genetic Engineering
Traffic Engineer
There's more when I can think of them
Not sure about Domestic Engineer, is that the same as Domestic Appliance Engineer ???

Edited December 12, 2014 by sparks2

[woody]

Thanks Sparks - good tip about surface speed of the flywheel, I hadn't thought of that. I think I had the speed about 800 if I can work out the reading correctly... I was actually skimming the face of it, theory being that if I keep the larger diameter, it will retain most of the inertia characteristic whilst being a bit lighter, helping it pick up a bit quicker but not losing inertia and causing it to stall easily. Feels as though I may have taken a bit much off riding it around the garden but won't know really until I get it out under proper conditions.

Three attempts at fixing the broken kickstart shaft now and three failures, but you don't know if you don't try... I enjoy having a go but know my limitations... and keep finding new ones. But I've learned from others and taught myself a bit so I can at least do most of the stuff on my own bikes now.

All part of the overall experience which culminates in what I enjoy most - riding trials.

[guy53]

I think it's a lot more usefull to be engenius than to have an engeneer ring.

Guy

[gordo]

Woody - Let's not have any more of this 'Now, I'm not an engineer' stuff.

You know what your talking about, more than most 'engineers' I know,

it's just false modesty to draw attention.

Any more and it's a yellow card.

Regards

Sparks

P.S.

What is an 'Engineer' anyway?

Chartered engineer?

Electrical engineer?

Electronic engineer?

Engineering Fitter?

Control Engineer?

Civil engineer?

Refrigeration engineer?

You name it, there's an 'engineer' for it.

Oh dear, I've upset someone, (or woke them up).

[sparks2]

Very good, Gordo, thanks for posting.

But haven't we all got to have the 'knack' to keep a 20, 30, 40, 50 and more years

old machine running whilst throwing it at the mud and rocks (those of us not buying

new machinery these days).

Many years ago, someone, speaking down to me, explained in a patronising manner, that

to be an Engineer you had to be Chartered, ie a member of a Chartered Institute.

Until then, you were just a fitter, technician, turner, welder etc.

I have not been comfortable with the term 'engineer' since.

Not that I think a fitter, technician or turner has any less to offer society.

Deryk - just had it confirmed by someone who worked down t'pit, the winding engine driver

was called the 'Banksman'. ---- One up to me.

Regards

Edited January 4, 2015 by sparks2

[sparks2]

Hi Deryk

Well, my friend and informant worked at Shuttle Eye, Grange Moor, in the sixties, not a mile or two

away from Lepton Edge, infact the neighbouring pit and he says it was 'Banksman'.

One -- One, I reckon.

Great banter, bye for now.

PS which mill in the Colne Valley?

Edited January 4, 2015 by sparks2

[guys]

I bet the engineer had to skim the brake shoes of that winding engine also......................................................... and we're back on topic

[sparks2]

Deryk

Your confusing it with that great book 'The Crowthers of Bankdam'

Was that ever made into a film??

[sparks2]

Deryk

As far as I can remember, the book is a fictional tale about a mill owning family in the Colne Valley (a very real place as we know).

There actually are, or were, Colne Valley mill owning families called 'Crowther' so the name 'Bankdam' was chosen as it was purely fictional, ie no such place exists in the real world.

I only know the book and never remember it on the tele. Although I do seem to remember a film, will do some research.

Regards

Later edit:-

Yes, there was a film but it was called 'The Master of Bankdam' based on the book (sounds like an early day version of Dallas or Dynasty).

I shall paste in the Wikipedia entry:-

The Master of Bankdam is a 1947 British historical film directed by Walter Forde from the novel, The Crowthers of Bankdam, by Thomas Armstrong.[1] It starred Anne Crawford, Dennis Price, Tom Walls, Stephen Murray, Linden Travers and David Tomlinson. Two generations of brothers struggle for control of the family business in 19th-century Yorkshire.

The film is the story of Bankdam, a small Yorkshire Mill. Run by the Crowther family, around 1860 it prospers and grows under its patriarch owner, Simeon Crowther. After family upheavals the firm goes through several crises under the management of his sons Zebediah and Joshua, who tend in oppose one and other. Joshua dies with many others in Mill collapse, partially blamed on his brother Zebediah. Joshua's role is taken over by his son Simeon. The old patriarch, Simeon dies. Zebediah with ill health retires to Vienna for treatment leaving his son, Lancelot Handel, with power of attorney in his absence. Things at the Mill deteriorate and a fatally ill, Zebediah returns and, with a mob outside the door, in a final scene he makes amends and entrusts Bankdam, not to his own son, but to Simeon as he realises that he is the only person that can save Bankham.

It was produced by Walter Forde and Edward Dryhurst, and directed by Walter Forde.. It was adapted for screen by Edward Dryhurst with additional dialogue by Moie Charles. The music is by Arthur Benjamin, performed by London Philharmonic and conducted by Muir Mathieson.[2][3] There is also evidence that it was produced by Ernest G. Roy of Nettlefold Studios according to his death notices.

The film was made by Holbein Films at Nettlefold Studios, Walton-on-Thames, Surrey, England. It was produced by Rank Films and distributed by Prestige Films.[4]

Edited January 4, 2015 by sparks2