tahoebrian5 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I'm getting ready to go out in a bit and need some inspiration. I've got to the point I can lift the rear wheel consistently by compressing the suspension, applying front brake on rebound, then pushing the bars down and about the front wheel. I'm having trouble getting the back to get any kind of lateral movement though. Tips please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerorev3rev4 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 practice on a push iron ,, but start a turn as you apply front brake and keep the momentum of rear end coming round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0007 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I can do it on my bicycle but not the trials bike so well although I know the theory Toss your hips and pull up on the bar, pull the bike over with your outside foot It will pivot on the steering head so you need to tip the bike the way you want the bike to go Like everything in trials, you need to do 10 things at the same time, easy stuff huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Find a very small ledge to come off of, or a small rock to kick off. I actually learned by riding off a curb at work during my lunch breaks. Took several weeks or more to get good at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob214 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 ryan young vids are great. study and then ride. i used to have a video from dale the US gas gas importer that he did with jack stites (sp) those 2 are in my opinion the best for teaching what is needed. the vid from dale will look outdated but the actual techniques are all the same. rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) Brian, easiest way is as lineaway has said, kick it across on the move by using a kicker or try it whilst on a camber going downhill so the wheel doesn't have to lift too far off the ground as in the video below. Plan throwing your legs and hips to one side and it should move over quite fast if the timing is right, the first hop should show what is needed to go one way. Both hops on the video are on the go hops, not stationary which are much harder to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9xcP-0-Lyg Edited January 4, 2015 by the addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivebrick Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Come in to the turn, compress down hard, plant that front wheel with authority and as the rear rises use the geometry of the bike and a little body english to have the rear 'fall' toward the side you want it to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Ok, thanks guys. I managed to get a couple small pivots but is taking way more effort than it should. Im sure there is some little thing that im doing wrong. Ill keep at it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_t Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I find if you start your turn before you lift the rear once you lift the rear it will try to fall in line with the way the bike is pointed... if that makes any sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 When you compress the bars(Forks) the bars should be turns slightly in the direction of the turn as well as your shoulders, When the rear suspension starts coming up to move your hips and legs into the direction you are going. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9zOcmDsM50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Ok, watched the RY video again. I think i need to just get better at getting the rear up. It seems so effortless and slow watching him. Its gotta be my timing which makes it feel harder which makes me think i need to go faster. Old habits die hard. Going to go out again today with renewed focus! Ill try to get some video which should help me see where im going wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoebrian5 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Ok, this os off topic but in the interest of not creating too many threads... The developers in the area were kind enough to create a perfect trials practice area in my back yard. Take a look at the photo below. There is a moderate hill with 10" to 20" rocks evenly spaced. As always its steeoer than it looks. Ive been practicing doing lines up and down. Basically i pick one rock to go over on the way up, then try to turn around and descend without dabbing. Looking for ideas on how to better use this area to simulate an actual competition line. Edited January 5, 2015 by tahoebrian5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Those rocks are spaced just right to make a crazy long sections of good tight turns. Learning the cool tricks are good, but learning to turn correctly is the key to trials. All the good riders can ride incredible huge rocks, but the only way to get points out of them is technical turns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrmad Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Ok, this os off topic but in the interest of not creating too many threads... The developers in the area were kind enough to create a perfect trials practice area in my back yard. Take a look at the photo below. There is a moderate hill with 10" to 20" rocks evenly spaced. As always its steeoer than it looks. Ive been practicing doing lines up and down. Basically i pick one rock to go over on the way up, then try to turn around and descend without dabbing. Looking for ideas on how to better use this area to simulate an actual competition line. Looks nice and dry, wait till you ride mud and slippery tree roots! Get some flags or markers and set up a path through and around the rocks would be my advice. Paths that force you to do full lock turns and go at a slow pace. Once you can do this without dabbing, make it more difficult by introducing an obstacle straight after a turn. It's true that you don't have a lot of room in sections. Work on perfecting your technique on small obstacles (that includes going down the other side) and then build your way up. I'm a beginner too, but that's what I would attempt EDIT: lineaway beat me to it, haha Edited January 5, 2015 by hrmad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_t Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Funny how things seem tougher as soon as you run a little tape around stuff... harder still when you have a score card... hardest yet with an observer watching over you - LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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