mags Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ted, I was about 3/4's positive but engineers like at least 2 decimal places... (micrometricalWink) Mags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I purchased my Cota for the engine and I assume the rest of the bike is just like any other... Plus... I quickly discovered that Montesa riders are just beautiful people! Mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 A few thoughts on Braketec performance issues. There could be variations in manufacturing quality, perhaps a batch where the tooling was at the end of its life or unexpectedly damaged. Certainly a few years ago some Braketec parts were full of machining swarf and had sharp edges on ports. Even if the callipers and hydraulics are spot on and identical their performance can vary from bike to bike. Factors like mounting angle, fork flex, brake disc type and mounting all play a part. I have 2 DOT 4 fluids with identical spec. One is Castrol motorcycle racing brake fluid and the other is Halfords own brand. The Halfords fluid is slightly less viscous (i think to give fast response in ABS). The difference in the feel at the brake lever is very noticeable depending on which fluid I put in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj65 Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 A few thoughts on Braketec performance issues. There could be variations in manufacturing quality, perhaps a batch where the tooling was at the end of its life or unexpectedly damaged. Certainly a few years ago some Braketec parts were full of machining swarf and had sharp edges on ports. Even if the callipers and hydraulics are spot on and identical their performance can vary from bike to bike. Factors like mounting angle, fork flex, brake disc type and mounting all play a part. I have 2 DOT 4 fluids with identical spec. One is Castrol motorcycle racing brake fluid and the other is Halfords own brand. The Halfords fluid is slightly less viscous (i think to give fast response in ABS). The difference in the feel at the brake lever is very noticeable depending on which fluid I put in. I think you might mean Formula parts full of machining swarf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think you might mean Formula parts full of machining swarf. What dadoff getting something wrong????????????????? Surely not, at least surely he wont admit a mistake................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breagh Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 115 posts on a linkage bearing! Good job it didn't drop a valve. The site would have crashed forever. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 115 posts on a linkage bearing! Good job it didn't drop a valve. The site would have crashed forever. Too right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyted Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) 115 posts on a linkage bearing! Good job it didn't drop a valve. The site would have crashed forever. I've dropped a bollock a few times , that count ? 118 ............... Edited February 18, 2015 by shyted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 I wonder from reading all this if people think we don't look after our bikes ? Get some thing clear here . Montesa Honda is definitely not a better quality product ! 24 hrs use on mine and when i came home from work ,went to workshop and tried to start the bike. Whack ,kick start ratchet gone ! They're now in my eye's no different than any other trials bike out there and certainly not worth the premium we paid over a far more competitive standard bike such as the GasGas or Beta So lets head the giving advice on starting a Montesa off now . Please don't try and insult my intelligence ! The bike defiantly has got an air of quality around it. Maybe it's just the better quality plastics and stickers eh ! Can somebody introduce dadof2 to this thread. It appears there are mechanical issues here which have not been addressed by producing a heavier bike ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyted Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Can somebody introduce dadof2 to this thread. It appears there are mechanical issues here which have not been addressed by producing a heavier bike ? Ooow ! 120.....breagh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannu Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Just to keep you all in the loop I did contact Honda about two weeks ago re my experience with the seals and bearing. I was impressed by their swift response (24hrs) expressing their regret that I had problems with the bike and that faulty parts would have been covered via a warranty but because it had not been brought to their attention (via dealer) there was nothing they could do. They did ask if there was anything else they could help with, and that they would be happy to assist with the next step forward. I did point out that due to the cost of the seals and bearing it wasn't worth taking the bike on a 100+ mile round trip to the nearest dealer but that I would appreciate assistance regarding the brake and clutch. Week later I'm still waiting a reply. 121 & counting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) I've voided warranty on 4 motorcycles (all made in Japan) in the last 2 years alone... not counting the trials bikes. I still own the 4 voided and they get used regularly. Modern bikes in the main are super reliable and I work on them exclusively myself except for boring and/or honing. I would never trust a dealer to work on a motorcycle. There is one exception... I'm super worried about my wife's KTM blowing an engine so I got the first service stamp to cover any engine issues. It runs to 10,500 rpm and has 49 hp with Akra pipe from 373cc. Trouble is... its made in India not Austria! Its being flicked as soon as she gets her unrestricted licence and then its over to Ducati. Stator failed on first ride home from dealer. Just as an example.... one qualified technician here was just sacked for belting a rear axle with a hammer and peening the thread.... he is now employed at a bigger motorcycle dealership with bikes in the $30,000 - $40,000 category. Same hammer in his toolbox! Does he do warranty work? Old saying.... if something on a motorcycle (or anything mechanical for that matter) is giving you a problem removing and refitting you are usually doing something wrong! And I'm talking about "Hammer Harry" here! Mags Edited February 18, 2015 by mags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannu Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Ok so, just wondering why Montesa recommend in the service manual to replace the brake fluid every six months but only recommend checking the clutch fluid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyted Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Ok so, just wondering why Montesa recommend in the service manual to replace the brake fluid every six months but only recommend checking the clutch fluid ? A . Because it was siesta time when they got up to that point in writing the manual. Then "Mahayana" syndrome kicked in. Drum role ,tish ! Edited February 22, 2015 by shyted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted February 22, 2015 Report Share Posted February 22, 2015 Ok so, just wondering why Montesa recommend in the service manual to replace the brake fluid every six months but only recommend checking the clutch fluid ? Because most Honda`s do not have a hydraulic clutch, would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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