trial_007 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Hi all, I have been off for a while due to commitments and illness, Been playing on my 315 for the past couple of weekends to get my body and arms back into it! Anyway my reason for posting, I have just swapped my old Honda Dax chinese copy for a old twin shock monty project, but how do I tell what model it is? I have done all the usual searches but I'm still baffled. It has a twin spark plug head, a amal carb, little metal air box The tank/seat unit is fibreglass. The front wheel is on the wrong way round! Where is the frame numbers on these old models, it could be that the brush painted frame is just thick and I can't see it. I will strip it down and blast the frame at work. Thanks for your advice (I will try and post a picture to help) Cheers Shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial_007 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Here are some pictures, it needs some work and parts changing like the rear tyre for a start. But I will strip it completely down, blast it and paint it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Looks like an Ulf Karlson 247 Cota, circa 75, but diff seat, headlight, shocks, stand & pillion pegs added. It may have been the "T" (trail) version. Eng # will be on top of the front engine mount. Frame # should be on stearing head somewhere. Be careful that the kickstarter isn't rotated too far forward (it looks like it is in 1 pic) as the stop will puncture the ign cover at the bottom of the stroke (if it hasn't already). Looks complete. Good find. Great to see another one about to get some TLC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nh014 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Although there are some components that do not match, it appears that you may have a 1977 or 1978 247 Cota. Compare yours to the Model Gallery on www.southwestmontesa.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial_007 Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Thank you for the quick response, I will do some more searching Yes the seat does look strange, and not one I have seen before, I'm going to change/modify it, as it's too long. I will do some changes to it also, perhaps not 100% original, depends on how badly broken it is and parts supply! The kickstart does go quite a way forward, I will look into that! Fingers crossed. Thanks again, I will post further pictures as it progresses Have a good weekend Cheers Shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 That's not an original 247 kickstart. I'm sure some Mont owners would be interested to know what else fits. Any chance of a photo of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial_007 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Took a picture of the kick start for you, it has no markings on it, only a very tiny "made in Japan" on the end of the foot rubber. It does go forwards quite a way, so I will have to investigate that further, perhaps it needs fixing, so I will take it to work and weld it there! I had a look on southwest montesa, the only one that comes close and matches, is the ulf Karlson 247, so that's what I think it is! The seat is definitely wrong, and ooh so ugly, so that is going to be changed Found the numbers on the frame and engine, they are matching, (is that correct) they look to be original, no dodgy buisiness there! The numbers are 21M***** Does that look correct? Thanks once again Cheers Shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial_007 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Just had another look on southwest, 21M = Cota Trials 5spd 250cc (Cota 247) ;o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducman Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 That's a Yamaha DT Kickstarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial_007 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 So a little strip down today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial_007 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Oops, sorry the pictures are on the side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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