craigrevo Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Hi I'm new to trials and I recently bought a 2005 300 raga edition. On my last time out I was practicing slow wheelies up a hill when the engine started knocking a fair bit. We went back to the van and stripped the clutch side down expecting to see something but there was no obvious signs of new damage. But there was a little play in the clutch basket, is normal? Since then I have totally stripped the engine to check for play in bearings and gears but I can't find anything other than the kickstart idle gear is pretty messy teeth broken. Would that cause a serious knocking sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigrevo Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I forgot to mention after looking in the cutch case on the day I decided to run the bike some more to see if the problem got any worse and it over heated so I called it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_earle Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 The idle gear will rattle even if it has a scratch, if you have broken teeth your problem lies there. An 05 300 Raga for a newbie, Brave man LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Did the fan run? When the fan starts going bad, sometime it starts sometimes no. When it is going bad, you can start it with your finger. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petert Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 If you had the clutch cover off I reckon you haven't lined the waterpump drive up properly if it overheated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigrevo Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Thanks for the responses guys. I am going to be replacing the idle gear as that seems to be the only damaged part. The fan was working before but it did whine once on a trials training day so i gave it a bang and it stopped whining. (much like the missus) I will make sure the water pump is 100% lined up when i put the engine back together. As for being brave on a 300 raga, i think im more stupid than braveive crashed this bike more in the few times ive rode it then any other bike in my life. I am planning to reduce the power so its a little more forgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybond700 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 If the clutch basket has play, replace the two bearings on the shaft, and check the shaft for play. If shaft has play, replace the big bearing inside the casing (need to take engine appart) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigrevo Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 If the clutch basket has play, replace the two bearings on the shaft, and check the shaft for play. If shaft has play, replace the big bearing inside the casing (need to take engine appart) Cheers, the movement is more in and out shaft movment than side to side, but i will double check as the engine is fully stripped already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybond700 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Is not that much work luckaly with the pro engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigrevo Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 One more thing, while watching this video he talks about a clutch hub bushing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eucYaEA-Cfc I couldnt see one in my clutch hub so i ordered one from splat shop when it arrived it looks like the part that is pressed in the hub. Is this the same part or should it be fitted over that part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybond700 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) THere is a small ''spacer/ hubbie thingie'' with mine(s) it stays in the clutch with dismounting. Parts number: MT280232080 Edited March 25, 2015 by crazybond700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigrevo Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 THere is a small ''spacer/ hubbie thingie'' with mine(s) it stays in the clutch with dismounting. Is there anyway you could remove yours like in the video it sounds like it is pressed in like mine. i will try and post a picture soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steve_earle Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Give it a tap it will come out, But you could just leave it there and refit the clutch as it's not a wear and tear part so will not need replacing. Just tap it from the side shown in your picture and it will drop out through the centre of the shaft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybond700 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Like stated above, but I dont see a reason why actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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