jrsunt Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Errr, because its higher than a 2 stroke? Never bothered me either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 As someone who has never noticed it being a problem whilst riding a 4rt can anyone tell me what's so wrong with it? I ended up hating more than loving the 4rt, but the tickover never was an issue for me either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) I have only ridden a 4Rt on a limited number of sections and on those did not find the high tickover to be a problem. Its just that if I were to ride a 4T I would prefer it to have a lower tickover say 800 to 1200 RPM. If you adjust a 4RT down to this it can be prone to unexpected stalling. Some think this is due to the capacitor EFI, my guess is valve overlap and flywheel weight are also factors. Its not that there is anything "wrong" with a high tickover, especially if you have never known anything different. Its just a preference thing. Edited May 31, 2015 by dadof2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Gerty warming up this morning, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dLSTgpEDQo&feature=youtu.be I thought she was "Dirty Gerty " ? Glenn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I thought she was "Dirty Gerty " ? Glenn Glenn, my old 4rt was "Dirty Gerty" this is just Gerty for now, give it time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I have only ridden a 4Rt on a limited number of sections and on those did not find the high tickover to be a problem. Its just that if I were to ride a 4T I would prefer it to have a lower tickover say 800 to 1200 RPM. If you adjust a 4RT down to this it can be prone to unexpected stalling. Some think this is due to the capacitor EFI, my guess is valve overlap and flywheel weight are also factors. Its not that there is anything "wrong" with a high tickover, especially if you have never known anything different. Its just a preference thing. It wont be an issue if you buy one, you will adapt to it very quickly and I never notice it being high apart from when its warming up. I've had many 2 strokes over the years, the swap to a 4rt was easy and what I needed at the time although learning a different way of grip took a little while but soon sorted. Edited June 1, 2015 by the addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) learning a different way of grip took a little while but soon sorted.Addict, I've read this from you & from others. Could you have a go at describing the different technique compared to a two stroke?I mentioned the high tickover because on the occasions I've ridden a 4RT I've found it difficult to trickle along smoothly on no/low throttle. I'd be happy to concede my technique being at fault as I've not had extensive experience on a 4RT. Nonetheless I am attracted to them as I fancy doing some more road based trials like the Normandale series. Edited June 1, 2015 by neils on wheels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Most of us drop the gearing from 10/41 to 9/41 to slow things down, I'm not sure if most 4rt riders load the motor when riding with the back brake/clutch so I'll see if I'm doing this on auto pilot next weekend. The grip thing? I was bloody hopeless for a few weeks, most would have got it sold within a fortnight I'd expect but I kept at it. I've no idea to be honest, it just clicked eventually and many have no problems transitioning straightaway, they are great bikes for Nationals and ultra reliable as well as great fun to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 For those that think an 1800 rpm tick over is no big deal. Take any other bike you have (90% of you have `other bikes`) and set that idle up. Try to ride it like usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) For those that think an 1800 rpm tick over is no big deal. Take any other bike you have (90% of you have `other bikes`) and set that idle up. Try to ride it like usual. Don't you think the gearing in the gearbox would be different? The 4RT also revs much higher on full throttle than a two stroke. Edit: I've looked it up and although the gear ratio in the gear box is about the same, the primary drive ratio on the 4RT is shorter so your comparison is not correct Edited June 2, 2015 by guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.e.lucas Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 4rt idle has never bothered me but mine came with a clutch lever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 (edited) 4rt idle has never bothered me but mine came with a clutch lever Edited June 2, 2015 by the addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betabonkers Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 10/41 gearing and use first for everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 10/41 gearing and use first for everything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrsunt Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 They've got more than 1 gear???? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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