guys Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 According to the first pictures of the event on this website, the sections are all made on natural terrain, which is nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Long overdue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Billy Bolt 2nd in world cup Jack Price 3rd fantastic performance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 3 brits in the top 4 in the ladies class and 4 brits in the points great result for Dabill, he could have been on the podium, Sheppard in the points as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Raga finished where you would expect, 2nd, despite no factory truck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Well done to Dabill for leading after lap one, I've watched a few videos of the action today and to be blunt the rules are bloody farcical Edited May 30, 2015 by the addict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Well done to Dabill for leading after lap one, I've watched a few videos of the action today and to be blunt the rules are bloody farcical Sat having dinner with Michaud. So tempted to show him this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffsgasgas Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Andy, If you ask him a question and he stops eating to answer please take his food away. When he asks why just reply "No stop". --Biff and the rest of the trials world 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecat Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 The "rock Sections" looked a bit concrete to me. Some sort of Defensive line from back in the day? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) scores alot of 5 or cleans, is this where they are plotting wrong? Only 6 in the starter class, Thierys comments on that? Edited May 31, 2015 by nigel dabster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 The WTC is largely irrelevant if there aren't enough riders at the grass roots level to justify it. A NASCAR win doesn't sell a lot of cars in Europe and a WTC win doesn't sell a lot of bikes when there are fewer and fewer trials riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Well done to Dabill for leading after lap one, I've watched a few videos of the action today and to be blunt the rules are bloody farcical Is it the rules that are farcical or the misapplication of the rules by observers who have been pressured by abuse from riders and minders? Having witnessed unpleasant arguments at WTC and BTC perhaps there is a case for an observers mark being kept secret until the rider completes the lap. Speaking as both a rider and observer, the observer is very rarely wrong, riders frequently are. I have had discussions regarding marking with some riders recently (Centre level), prior to or after the event and not related to any specific incident and it was absolutely clear some do not know and have never read the rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiechris Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I have to agree. After watching the videos I figured the no-stop rule must have been abandoned this year. I know there will always be an argument as to whether a rider actually stopped or not, but bouncing the bike backwards (like in the videos) would have been a five even under the old rules. I know they were tough on it in Australia last year and there were many times a rider or minder would argue the point with an observer. It wasn't until the observer pulled the yellow card from their pocket that the riders got the message and complied. Chris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 As I've said before the best way to get rid of a bad rule is to enforce it exactly as written. Lax enforcement just perpetuates and accumulates bad rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Is it the rules that are farcical or the misapplication of the rules by observers who have been pressured by abuse from riders and minders? Having witnessed unpleasant arguments at WTC and BTC perhaps there is a case for an observers mark being kept secret until the rider completes the lap. Speaking as both a rider and observer, the observer is very rarely wrong, riders frequently are. I have had discussions regarding marking with some riders recently (Centre level), prior to or after the event and not related to any specific incident and it was absolutely clear some do not know and have never read the rules. Again your comment shows a lack of knowledge. Since the outset the rules have not been enforced anything like no stop, even to the extent of the explanatory change of rules video of ferrer showed him pretty much stopping. Since then the rules have relaxed much further so its near enough stopping for half a second is ok. When there is a grey area so vast as this arguments over inconsistences will naturally happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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