michael_t Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Not in a trials bike but nice to see them making moves towards a simpler 2 stroke design.... http://www.gizmag.com/honda-two-stroke-with-fuel-injection-patent-filing/38529/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 HHHMMMMM....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbutler Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Honda 2t I don't believe it for one minuet probably did the patten to stick in a file cabinet so no one else can mack it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 No one has yet made a fuel injected trials bike worth a crap. I`ll take a carb I can fix in the pits any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automagp68 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 No one has yet made a fuel injected trials bike worth a crap. I`ll take a carb I can fix in the pits any day. Whats wrong with a new ossa, they look really nice but I've never ridden one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Whats wrong with a new ossa, they look really nice but I've never ridden oneFirst you have to find one that starts. After that they could have been a good bike, but stuck in the Gas Gas fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imexian Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Lineaway, you have made a few good and intelligent posts, but the last one was a child like load of bolloxs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think its a wind up, those drawings look like something from the 1930's, look at the length of the conrod for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jml Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think its a wind up, those drawings look like something from the 1930's, look at the length of the conrod for a start. I think that style is fairly standard for patent applications. This is the Kawaski Supercharger drawings for the current H2 bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I've rode a number of Ossa's and can start them no problem. Some people can't start a gas gas pro either. I think the battery pack people add to the ossa helps but there must just be a knack to it ? Certainly wouldn't rubbish fuel injection on this basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collyolly Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Just as important as the fuel injection is the way the rod is attached to the crank via an extra link. I have not drawn it out but does this affect the way the piston rises and falls to give more time for getting fuel in and exhaust out or changing the way compression works for diesel fuel ? There is a circular drawing showing the fueling cycle, it would be interesting to see a similar version for a standard crank / rod set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Lineaway, you have made a few good and intelligent posts, but the last one was a child like load of bolloxs! You are correct, I actually loved the Ossa. But I will not bash a product that started out looking great and fell on it`s face. Would you like pages of what was wrong with the bike and why it failed to meet expectations? Starting was the shortest thing I could pick on. Edited July 23, 2015 by lineaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 As a p o i Ossa didnt fail because of Gas Gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canada280i Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ossa with the correct mapping is easy to start with the correct technique for a quadrant type starter gear. I would like to see the pages of what was wrong with it Lineaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 The engine in the patent diagrams has little in common with a typical 2 stroke engine other than it produces a power stroke for every "crank" rotation. The engine shown would also be too tall for trials / off road application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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