jimmyl Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I quiet fancy an upgrade from my trusty 09 250 4rt But As the advert goes I really like the Repsol and I also really like the new RR (and think the showa suspended bikes are the best) But Is a standard 250 with say an Ohlins rear shock be the Aldi version? The std bike is £2000 cheaper and I'm sure there would be change out of that even if you change tyres as well to Michelins. I really do want a Repsol but my tight northern upbringing is making me ask the question!!!. I have no knowledge of the tech forks so any input appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercoben12 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 not sure on the ohlins, i do know though that the tech fork is very very good. it is lighter than the other forks and i have it on my sherco and it makes the front end super light. if you can stretch the £ i would go for the RR. also worth bearing in mind it would hold its value alot better than standard, if you keep it in good condition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I'm really pleased with my 2014 Mont, cant fault the forks or shock, if money was irrelevant then I'd go for the rr purely because I'd always be thinking "what if" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I'm really pleased with my 2014 Mont, cant fault the forks or shock, if money was irrelevant then I'd go for the rr purely because I'd always be thinking "what if" Yo Mr addict nice to see you back posting on TC. Are you on the std bike or the repsol?. I do have a spare Showa shock from a 315 - not sure if the 4rt ones are different as the rest of linkage/swing arm is the same. To me the RR is pointless, don't need more than 250cc, I put my 280 back to 250, I have PTB, what else does it offer for £3k. Think I'm talking my self into a std 2105 bike and then give it a tweak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie_lejeune Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Id buy the standard bike and then when you gather the money customise it as you go, thats the great thing about 4rt is the amount of aftermarket bits, Class bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Id buy the standard bike and then when you gather the money customise it as you go, thats the great thing about 4rt is the amount of aftermarket bits, Class bikes That's why I stuck with my 09 - got all the bits I want and don't really want to give them up by changing bikes but thinks its time for a bit of a change - just not that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the addict Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Yo Mr addict nice to see you back posting on TC. Are you on the std bike or the repsol?. I do have a spare Showa shock from a 315 - not sure if the 4rt ones are different as the rest of linkage/swing arm is the same. To me the RR is pointless, don't need more than 250cc, I put my 280 back to 250, I have PTB, what else does it offer for £3k. Think I'm talking my self into a std 2105 bike and then give it a tweak. Standard bike mate, and no changes to the suspension. I like the 260cc motor as its slightly freer reving and pulls a little more. I probably need a slightly stiffer spring in the back from standard but everything is pefect for what I ride. I think if I had 2k change I'd rather spend it on tyres and spares than a load of over priced carbon bits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evoalien Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 It's an Olle" rear shock on the standard bike. Just like what Sherco and scorpas use on their bikes. It is a far cry from the showa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 That's why I stuck with my 09 - got all the bits I want and don't really want to give them up by changing bikes but thinks its time for a bit of a change - just not that much. Isnt the ptb the best upgrade, when programmed by someone who knows what they are doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Isnt the ptb the best upgrade, when programmed by someone who knows what they are doing? Too true - can't understand why these are not marketed /fitted to all the Monts as a major USP. Cant cost anymore to make them. (maybe emission laws) I'm no boffin but have amalgamated a couple of maps and them tweaked to get a map that really suits me. Have put the softest beginners map on friends bike and makes it really smooth like a little turbine and so ride able especially with an S3 pipe. Same bike different map could be winning nationals. My list of 4rt musts PTB Case saver on front sprocket 2 bits of 10mm rod welded to footrest hanger supports ala future racing 4 bits of mesh on mudguard to stop muck going into air box Mitani sump shield or similar X lite tyres tank of fuel Big smile -compulsory The rest is just bling and personal preferences 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Too true - can't understand why these are not marketed /fitted to all the Monts as a major USP. Cant cost anymore to make them. (maybe emission laws) I'm no boffin but have amalgamated a couple of maps and them tweaked to get a map that really suits me. Have put the softest beginners map on friends bike and makes it really smooth like a little turbine and so ride able especially with an S3 pipe. Same bike different map could be winning nationals. My list of 4rt musts PTB Case saver on front sprocket 2 bits of 10mm rod welded to footrest hanger supports ala future racing 4 bits of mesh on mudguard to stop muck going into air box Mitani sump shield or similar X lite tyres tank of fuel Big smile -compulsory The rest is just bling and personal preferences I think you've just answered your own question there Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think you've just answered your own question there Jimmy I know but its good to talk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 I know but its good to talk Indeed it is and I agree that the 2015 4RT at £4,999 looks relatively good value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham2 Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 ........ ...........Think I'm talking my self into a std 2105 bike and then give it a tweak. Yes, the magnetron induction drive gives great traction through all dimensions in space-time Seriously though, a great post...In my limited experience of the MkI, I dislike the 4rt if it's without the PTB. I'd personally love to have the standard 260 in my garage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tman427 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Having access to both the standard 15 montesa and the repsol, in my opinion both ride exactly the same, engine/power stance etc are identical, the bar positions feel different due to the difference in the s3/renthal set ups, both suspensions are excellent once worn in, wether the repsol justifys the extra £1700, for a few carbon bits, Showa set up and the horid Orange theme, I don't know, probably not. The RR would be the bike to have out of next years models but again, dealers are suggesting prices of £8000, is it worth the extra £2200 over the standard? Also with the remaining 2015 standard models being reduced by a further £850 meaning there now priced at £4999, that's what I'd be going for! Interesting read from all. I have gone from my Beta 300 Evo 4T (sick of the motor issues and soft aluminum) and have just ordered a new Montesa 2604RT. Started on a Sherco 2 stroke, switched over to the 4 strokes and been very happy. The bikes seem to suit me best and how I tend to ride. Any thoughts on the Termignoni exhaust? Thanks, good to know about the case saver Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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