nickyburnell Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's the evolutionary laziness of the western world. Mum, dad and gran used to go on holiday in motorbike and side car, now they need a car that's, "easy to get in and out of" and a blimmin great box on the roof. Cables are fine and no clutch is so bad that it compares to 10 hours a day in a 50/60's Scammell. People are just not up for effort anymore. Regards Victor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_earle Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Shall we go back to wooden wheels so we don't get punctures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 HEY YOU DAMN KIDS GIT OFF MY LAWN!!! I think we're just getting old and cranky. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffmutt Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Simple, clean the brake drums and liners, oil the cables on a regular basis, and use quality clutch plates, sorted. Or is that too much work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyt Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Do we need USB, SS, drives? What was wrong with floppy disks or punch tape you might ask? All academic. A solution to a problem that up until now has never been asked. Respective the past, embrace the future. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Nice one Billy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Hydraulics, Do We Need Them? We need a hole in the head more like! Edited September 8, 2015 by faussy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbutler Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 I had a conversation with a fellow club member at one of our vintage two day enduro events at lunch he was "barging" how the 92 (I think) KDX 200 handled and stopped as well as his 2010 KTM. the last thing I told him before I left to pre ride back to camp was " If they were so damn good they would still make them that way. BE CAREFUL OUT THERE." Well when I got to camp NO EMTs found out he blew a turn off the mountain they found him some 100 FT off the trail ( one we had road for many years) the last thing he remembers was not being able to stop going over the edge. He got lucky major concussion 4 broken ribs sprained wrist. And I dont like adjusting cables constantly never had ANY problems with Hydraulics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) I hate to be a grumpy old guy ....But I like riding my tweeked 240 pro better than my 97 section . Everything on the section seems to happen to fast , my clutch on the 240 is stable , progressive and totally a one finger deal . The section feels like a switch .The 300 front brake on it works better for my style of riding than the disc on the section , just much better feel for me. And with good shoes and a little extra effort water has never been a issue for me , you just have to know you may have a tick less power for a few moments ... And yeah I've been a mechanic for over 40 years , so my fingers are kinda strong and sensitive (women luv'em !). I may need alot more peg time on the section to get comfortable on it , but I have the feeling I'll sell it or let my son abuse it ...And I'd rather clean and adjust drums and lube cables anyday of the week than try to do a field repair on blown hydraulics... And we are riding trials , not enduro's or motocross ....And I prefer no-stop trials ... Glenn Edited September 8, 2015 by axulsuv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 I actually get the point of easy maintenance but isnt it a great feeling if you sort a hydraulic problem isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickyburnell Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Lets answer this question with a question: Why does everything have to be easier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetupfun Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 I like the look of drum brake wheels, just like I like the look of the motorbikes they come on. Not many things mar my enjoyment of the aesthetic appeal of a motorbike, as much an old bike that someone has retrofitted a disc brake to I also think that a well set-up old trials bike can feel absolutely wonderful to ride, despite it being so different to a modern trials bike 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffsgasgas Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Let's go the polar opposite direction here. Why not use electrical actuation of brakes and clutches? Far more reliable then mechanical delivery systems. --Biff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisse Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 that sounds just the ticket... will it fit neatly behind an SWM clutch cover... and er , what exactly is it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Or add your age and the class you ride to your post. I found the swm I had was fine on the easy course and some middle route sections. Generally though on the middle course both clutch and brakes were something of a handicap. So in answering the question try and remember that not everyone is riding the twin shock course. Edited September 9, 2015 by baldilocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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