heffergm Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Can anyone comment on how hard the 300 4t is to start relative to a 300 2t? I ask for a couple reasons: - I have a problem with my right leg from an old injury, and kicking my current Sherco 300 2t all day at a trial is too much - I'm considering going back to a Beta... but whether it'll be a 2t or 4t I'm undecided. I never minded the left side kicker on the 2t, which would alleviate my leg issue, but obviously the 4t has the right side kicker. So if it requires the same effort, it's kind of out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw dave Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Hi Heffergm - I find the Beta Evo 4T really easy to kick over, and they start usually first or second kick, hot or cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motomofo1 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Really, the Beta 4T is probably the easiest trials bike to start. I've seen someone start one with their hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted September 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Huh... well, in that case, I'll definitely check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iridebikes Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Very easy to start, I've done it with left leg and it's easy, I also ride a 4t 300 and would highly recommend it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfc Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 More of a push than a kick, easy once you get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 If starting is the problem buy a 250. I`ve recently went round and round with a gentleman that was a long time rider (older) with a knee replacement. Smaller is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Would be interested in a 4T Beta too the new model is fitted with a injection system no carb anymore, thus starting should be easier but furthermost no issues while riding in the mountains. I'am more an old style rider and too "just" have old bikes, but a 4T Beta Mmmmh very nice. The older 250 and 300 4T that I have tried were both easy to start, much easier then Bultacos or SWM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted September 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 The 2016 4t is fuel injected??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yes it is! Even so they will produce a factory model. I was already interested in 2015 but changed my mind towards another twinshock but this year I'am very much in the demand modus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 If you want too see a preview Beta Norway has posted some on their Facebook pages. Detta var faktiskt mycket bra at meddela resten i världen om detta, tack så mycket! https://m.facebook.com/137528449730272/photos/pcb.525901127559667/525901027559677/?type=3&source=48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyt Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 From Beta web site on 4T. No mention of FI, just the Mikuni Cv carb. Type: Single cylinder, 4-stroke, 4-valve, liquid-cooled Bore: 84mmStroke: 53.6mmDisplacement: 297.3ccCompression Ratio: 11.5:1Ignition: Electronic 12 volt, 85 watt w/ dual-map switch (aggressive or soft settings) Spark Plug: NGK CR7EBLubrication: Internal oil pump w/ cartridge filterCarburetor: Mikuni CVClutch: Wet multi-discTransmission: 5-speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted September 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 Yeah, I don't see anything about FI either. In any case, another question: anyone know if the clutch on the 250/300 4t has the same reversible spring retainers that the 300 2t does? If not, how's the lever effort? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 There is the statement that all Beta 4stroke models get the injection system Beta had already developed mounted to one Enduro model in 2015 due to better performance and the Euro4 regulations ... Anyway will ask my Importer / dealer here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted September 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 Yeah, they're just talking about the enduro bikes. I don't think you'll see them put the same system on a trials bike anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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