Scott Trial

[cubby]

The entry list looks full of quality this year and I thought that maybe we should try and come up with potential winners for the trial, or maybe even a top three. It is a unique combination of speed, fitness and consistency between the sticks that will win it, but who has the best overall package?

To help get started a few questions:

What is the lowest riding number to win the Scott?

Has a non-uk rider ever won?

How will David Knight get on, bearing in mind his trials pedigree prior to getting quite good at Enduros?

How much is local knowledge really an advantage?

Too early to predict my top three but I'm sure there are more questions that will help us work it out.

[perce]

What is the lowest riding number to win the Scott?

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Riding numbers have only been seeded in recent times (see the regs for details)

so it used to possible for the potential winner to draw #1. Seeding is done in an attempt to keep the first man on the course & the last man as close together as possible. In recent times only 20 or so people can go round within an hour of the man setting Standard Time.

Has a non-uk rider ever won?

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No

How will David Knight get on, bearing in mind his trials pedigree prior to getting quite good at Enduros?

How much is local knowledge really an advantage?

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Previous Scott experience & knowing where you are count a lot. It would be extremely difficult for any top class first timer to get in the first 6 never mind win it. For someone who hasn't previously ridden it would be very difficult to gauge how fast to go.

[nigel dabster]

How long (time on the bike) is that hells gate thingy and that other enduro that ends in the dark up some big hill in France??

Even if Knighter was to manage a good time what would be the differential in marks between him and say Jarvis Connor and the like. The value of local knowledge (see riders like Phillip Alderson) cannot be underestimaed

[marky boy]

The value of local knowledge  cannot be underestimated

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Is this cos you need to know the shortcuts ??

[kinell]

The value of local knowledge  cannot be underestimated

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Is this cos you need to know the shortcuts ??

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Never mind shortcuts, it's about time you had a go at the Scott

[perce]

The value of local knowledge

[marky boy]

Hey its cold enough WATCHING the bloody scott let alone get pish wet through and been ridden over by decent riders and used as traction. Just ask TC's finest.Every year i see him he is freezing his lense off and he is from the cold lands!!

I know, the shortcut stuff is just rumours

[Andy]

You spectating Marky?

[physco]

on about first time winners.the biggest impact i have ever seen since i have been watching and riding in the scott was by robert crawford on a beta zero i think in 1990?.it was a hard wet scott and robert won purly because that is what he had told his brain to do.he had some big crashes,punctures,chain of,when he finished the poor kid had tears in his eyes and i remember thinking at the finish that he had given the trial 110%.his bike was a bit of a wreck too.at the awards do at night it was a speacail night because as the results worked down and the top riders got fewer you could sense that their had been an upset,yes robert had won,not a first timer but a very good second timer.does any body know if any body has won first time out up their.if you have not seen the scott or been to the awards do get your self up thier,it realy is a speacial day wether you are riding or watching,roll on 22 october,mega!!.

[boydw]

Seen as though i love the Scott, i'll put my two penneth worth in.

For the win, i'd back Jarvis, however Colley could upset things, as he is really quick over the moors. and should do as well on observation. I also think James Dabill could upset the runnings, he proved last year he has the speed, and his riding has come on this year, so with the right head on come race day, he could and should be well up there.

For standard time - this is the hard one, this year see's a number of quick riders, Jarvis, Colley, Clarky, Dabill, Austermuhle, B Hemmingway, throw in the likes of David Knight, Paul Bolton, Wayne Braybrook and Crippsy, also not forgetting Sunt, who is desperate to set standard time. This is sure to be one of the fastest Scotts on record.

What does any body else think?

dont forget, when the flag drops the bulls**t stops.

[cubby]

The whole 'shortcuts' thing always seems part of the Scott, but if it really has been stamped out at least it makes things a bit more equal.

I think BoydW has a pretty good view of things. I remember a couple of years ago when Juan Knight rode for the first time, I think the year he was British Enduro Champion he found it hard going and finished in the top 10 - 15. Can't remember exactly.

Is four stroke power the tool to have?

Do you need to set up the bike any differently than normal to cope with the going??

I think David Knight could still set fastest time, he is just that step above when it comes to the fast stuff. His observation score will be the deciding factor so I don't think he will win.

Interesting tip from BoydW though is Colley. He spends a bit more time these days out on his Enduro bike so and there is no doubting him between the sticks.

What ever happened to Rob Crawford??? Don't see his name anywhere these days.

[perce]

He'll not see which way Grimbo goes, I cannot see a first timer going quickest in the Scott. After all you wouldn't expect a road racer to go to Donnington & set fastest lap on his first time round would you?

Have you ever been to the Scott Cubby? Even if you've watched it it's an completely different experience riding.

2004 Scott Trial Times. time marks obs total place

193 GRAHAM JARVIS 4:45:26 47 47 1

182 IAN AUSTERMUHLE 4:50:51 6 63 69 2

180 JAMES DABILL 4:53:57 9 95 104 10

192 PHILIP M. ALDERSON 5:06:57 22 77 99 6

155 SAM CONNOR 5:15: 3 30 72 102 8

195 DAN CLARK 5:15:23 30 72 102 8

184 BEN HEMINGWAY 5:16:55 32 93 125 13

194 AMOS BILBAO 5:17:24 32 51 83 3

188 MARTIN CROSSWAITE 5:18: 5 33 56 89 4

189 JAMES LAMPKIN 5:23:40 39 55 94 5

187 JOHN R. SUNTER 5:24:23 39 105 144 16

170 GARY MACDONALD 5:28:12 43 92 135 14

169 HAROL CRAWFORD 5:34:34 50 107 157 18

174 DAN HEMINGWAY 5:36:23 51 68 119 11

198 LIAM WALKER 5:39:13 54 81 135 14

166 DAN THORPE 5:39:23 54 45 99 6

143 ARAN DRACHENBERG 5:42:30 58 91 149 17

173 STEPHEN SUDDESS 5:43:56 59 136 195 33

172 SAM LUDGATE 5:44:26 59 63 122 12

145 MARK SUNTER 5:46:48 62 119 181 28

141 BOYD WEBSTER 5:50: 4 65 102 167 22

142 GERALD RICHARDSON 5:33:30 69 148 217 39

200 ROGER H. WILLIAMS 5:57:53 73 94 167 22

154 DAVID E MYERS 5:59:46 75 154 229 41

152 GRAHAM TALES 5:59:58 75 88 163 21

197 NATHAN WRIGGLESWORTH 6:01:51 77 93 170 25

139 GARY JENKINS 6:05:18 80 113 193 32

181 RICHARD GASKELL 6:06:14 81 78 159 19

122 JONATHON HUGHES 6:06:59 82 183 265 49

186 ANTHONY AYRTON 6:07: 7 82 98 180 27

164 JAMES NOBLE 6:08:18 83 86 169 24

165 PETER BROWN 6:09:45 85 129 214 38

135 MICHAEL BROWN 6:11:35 87 105 192 31

163 BEN LUDGATE 6:11:35 87 95 182 29

161 THOMAS HICK 6:15:25 90 100 190 30

121 PAUL WARDLE 6:16:45 92 146 238 43

168 CHRIS PEARSON 6:20: 5 95 65 160 20

113 ASHLEY SMITH 6:20: 7 95 104 199 34

153 TOM SAGAR 6:21: 1 96 83 179 26

110 GUY KENDREW 6:25:58 101 149 250 46

201 TALLENTIRE ALSOP,TENNANT 6:27:18 102 332 434 69

176 JAN CARDINAELS 6:27:24 102 101 203 35

92 STEVE TIMMS 6:28:42

130 ANDREW LISHMAN 6:31:25 106 120 226 40

199 ANDREW CARTER 6:32:26 107 102 209 37

66 KEVIN DIGNAN 6:39:36 115 169 284 57

118 ANDREW CLAYTON 6:40:58 116 174 290 59

103 STUART MARTIN 6:41: 5 116 125 241 44

131 CHRIS TENNANT 6:42:56 118 144 262 48

171 BARRIE DARRELL 6:43:13 118 184 302 63

89 DAVID HARDY 6:43:31 119 171 290 59

62 JOHN CONWAY 6:44:11 119 135 254 47

149 EDWARD MCINTOSH 6:46:57 122 81 203 35

114 ANDY NOAD 6:48: 2 123 153 276 55

117 ANDREW TALES 6:51:48 127 148 275 54

60 RICHARD TAYLOR 6:52:30 128 215 343 66

109 ALLAN RICHARDSON 6:52:52 128 137 265 49

138 DANNY COCKSHOTT 6:53:39 129 156 285 58

175 PETER SHARP 6:55: 2 130 111 241 44

185 RICHARD FAWCETT 7:01:28 137 154 291 61

85 PAUL ASTWOOD 7:02:19 137 168 305 64

99 KEVIN CHAPMAN 7:02:59 138 129 267 51

26 ANDY LONGDEN 7:03:22 138 192 330 65

150 JAY STEPHENSON 7:03:42 139 129 268 52

77 STEVEN HIND 7:04:18 139 223 362 68

94 ADRIAN CLARKE 7:06:54 142 137 279 56

123 DANIEL JOHNSON 7:11:22 146 122 268 52

126 TIM PEARSON 7:11:43 147 153 300 62

179 DANE SHERWIN 7:11:53

48 MARTIN BAINBRIDGE 7:12:17 147 196 343 66

183 DANNY HASLAM 7:15:13 150 84 234 42

156 GAVIN LOWTHER 7:17:12 !!! OVER TIME

133 LEIGH JEPSON 7:17:33 !!! OVER TIME

137 RUSSELL CANNELL 7:17:53 !!! OVER TIME

132 JAMES JOHNSON 7:18:19 !!! OVER TIME

87 BRYAN COOK 7:19:18 !!! OVER TIME

116 NEIL SHARP 7:23:14 !!! OVER TIME

158 GARY PEARS 7:28:15 !!! OVER TIME

55 STEVEN PLAIN 7:29:41 !!! OVER TIME

29 ALAN KENDALL 7:31:28 !!! OVER TIME

104 GARRY WATSON 7:33: 5 !!! OVER TIME

35 MARTIN C. WILSON 7:35: 7 !!! OVER TIME

63 MATHEW RENNISON 7:37:55 !!! OVER TIME

3 DAVID CARTER 7:41:11 !!! OVER TIME

32 CHRIS RIDLEY 7:42:45 !!! OVER TIME

96 MICHAEL JENKINSON 7:45: 6 !!! OVER TIME

97 KEVIN SHARPE 7:46:17 !!! OVER TIME

39 STEPHEN WOOD 7:49:22 !!! EXIT FAULS

30 KATY SUNTER 7:50:27 !!! OVER TIME

49 MARK WHITHAM 7:50:48 !!! OVER TIME

27 ADRIAN JERVIS 7:55: 4 !!! OVER TIME

101 STEPHEN RICHARDSON 7:56:41 !!! OVER TIME

70 BRENDAN SUFFELL 8:01: 6 !!! OVER TIME

61 PAUL DENNIS 8:06:28 !!! OVER TIME

28 PAUL TERRY 8:09:48 !!! OVER TIME

15 TOM CONWAY 8:10:27 !!! OVER TIME

83 DONALD MCPHIE 8:19:13 !!! OVER TIME

Edited September 30, 2005 by PERCE

[perce]

Which of the girls will get the first modern day Scott finish? Katy Sunter & Maria Conway have both come close in the last 2 years but failed to beat the clock, will any of them do it this time?

[rowly]

Physco for the win or is he "peaking" too early

[cota kid]

1 Jarvis

2 Knight

3 Dabill

Edited October 7, 2005 by Cota Kid