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Not sure what you'd use it for.Tank appears the same size so it wouldn't go far,radiator appears the same too which would probably be ok in the winter but marginal in summer.If it's geared up up for the road 1st would be still too high for some off road going..I think trials bikes have become too specialised to easily convert into multi purpose bikes

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Not sure what you'd use it for.Tank appears the same size so it wouldn't go far,radiator appears the same too which would probably be ok in the winter but marginal in summer.If it's geared up up for the road 1st would be still too high for some off road going..I think trials bikes have become too specialised to easily convert into multi purpose bikes

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1a 2.385 (31/13)

2a 1.933 (29/15) 3a 1.500 (27/18) 4a 1.130 (26/23) 5a 0.814 (22/27) 4.100 (41/10)

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Here you go. Bing translator so may be a bit off!

 

Introduction

Montesa in 1991 stopped the production of Evasión, the company has focused its

attention exclusively on the production of specific models from Trial: Cota, Cota 314R 311, Cota 315R and

Finally, Cota 4RT, a model that has generated a true revolution in the world thanks to a Trial

engine completely new and revolutionary in 4T and 4 distribution and supply valves

PGM-FI electronic fuel injection.

Following the principles of combining advanced technology with extreme respect for the environment,

in 2013 Montesa Cota presented 4RT260, a completely renovated model that offered a

noticeable improvement in performance while retaining the main features of the Cota 4RT.

In addition, Montesa recently presented Cota 300RR competitive, a new model more oriented

the racing than Cota 4RT260, but still continues to use 4-stroke technology.

For this new season, Montesa 2016 has decided to introduce the new 4RIDE, a model that comes

the market to resume the concept introduced by the brand with models 247 and 348 Cota Cota.

Certainly, seeing this new 4RIDE, many will recognize some aspects of the model

Evasión, which was focused on hiking and Trial that stemmed directly from his 310 Cota

Trial version. So, 25 years later, considering the great demand and the changing

customer needs, Montesa decided to return to the concept of "adventure" of the Trial, one of the most

spectacular off-road disciplines.

 

 

 

Development concept

Montesa decided to broaden its range of models, and users, with this amazing RIDE, 4

Reinventing a concept oriented offroad pleasure of enjoying the mountain environment with a

greater ease and an incredible fun.

Up to now, Montesa had three models in its range of high quality, the Cota 4RT

260, Race Replica and Cota 300RR, whose main features are the advanced technology of their

4-stroke engines and the reliability of components. Maintaining the same design philosophy, the Team of

Montesa development, in close collaboration with the R&D of Honda Motor Co. Ltd., has worked hard to

develop the new 4RIDE, a trial hiking-oriented model that however does not give up to the highest

distinctive brand standards.

The concept of the new model is already clear in his name, 4RIDE: the number "4" reminds one of the

Montesa badges – 4-stroke engine – like play on the pronunciation of the number "Four", very

similar to "for", indicating his predisposition to a "Guide". Is a bike with

the home, which travel on the road and venture on our favorite trails, even the most

rough!

There are also "4", meaning "Four", the "objectives" of the new guide 4RIDE: adventure, fun, freedom and

versatility. In this context it is also interesting to note the large load capacity of 4RIDE, with

a large compartment under the seat, easy to access, where you can arrange numerous objects, such

example, a rain jacket or a light jacket, gloves and more.

The 4RIDE Development Team worked on the basis of the Cota 4RT260 to get a bike more

Adventure-oriented, with extraordinary ease of use and versatility. For this, the

engine has a completely redesigned gearbox ratio and longer than trials bike,

ensure peak performance and maximum driving comfort even on long journeys. In addition, with the

same goal, was revised ergonomics of the bike, with a true saddle at the right height and suspension

the increased height, to give a proper trim for road circulation and adapted to

off-road vehicle.

The power level is such that the 4RIDE you can drive with your license A2, clear objective of Montesa that

Thus caters to an audience seeking a motorcycle less radical than a Trial model, in order to

venture into the mountains without sacrificing quality and performance components necessary to

tackling technical areas and trialistiche.

Construction process

As for the 260 Montesa Cota 4RT, Cota and Cota Race Replica 300RR, 4RIDE are built in

modern Santa Perpetua de Mogoda, Barcelona. The plant incorporates the processes of

welding, construction of the petrol tank, and swingarm aluminum frame, ensuring

production uniformity for maximizing brand standards.

 

 

Design and style

Following the 4Rt260 and Cota, Cota 300RR red is the predominant color of the

new 4RIDE. Is this on the front fender, side panels and on the back of the saddle

(combined with black), red hubs and rims stickers. The 4RIDE logo is shown in black and

Black logo, Montesa, on both sides of the bike and fork sheaths, in this case with the

number "4" in red. This red color is combined with white plastic rear fender, where

We find the "M" logo in grey with Montesa "Offroad adventure" that defines

clearly this new orientation Montesa. The aluminium fuel tank is not

covered by plastic, leaving in the high quality of the material used. The hubs, red,

combine with black circles and rays, giving the 4RIDE a more sporty and

attractive, thanks to the handlebars, to turn black.

Montesa models are well known for high quality finishes and components that

maintain their properties intact over the years. We kept these features in new

4RIDE using plastic and stickers of the highest quality and great aesthetic impact.

 

 

Engine

4RIDE engine maintains the 258, 9cc 4T of Cota 4RT 260 and Race Replica. The novelty

trial models is in gear ratio, completely renovated. Given the orientation

"adventure" and more of the new model, the change was adapted for this purpose. While

in trials bike gear ratio is very short to address obstacles with a response

immediate opening of gas, on the five-speed 4RIDE have a longer relationship. with that

new, longer ranged, the pilot can always find the proper speed to address both

longer transfers is more technical areas such as trails and cross-country biking trails, particularly ".

Also the 4RIDE adopts a discharge of greater volume, larger and longer than that of Cota

4rt, to give a smoother response and less aggressive at the opening of the gas relative to a trials bike,

What to give comfort and drivability. For this purpose a pedal is also used in the

starting to make starting easier.

The remarkable performance of 4RIDE are also due to the adoption of the same fuel pump of Cota

260 and Race Replica, which provides a greater flow of fuel. This element, combined with the new

ECU mapping, involves a more substantial power curve especially at low and medium

schemes, the most widely used on this model.

Another important aspect is the engine brake reduction that was achieved by inserting a

decompression system in carter and meticulous work on electronics. Through this system,

When you close the throttle, engine braking is minimized by giving the rider the feeling of riding a bike more

Lightweight and easy to control.

 

 

Chassis

The new 4RIDE is equipped with a lightweight frame and a lightweight, aluminum swingarm

synonymous with great performance and reliability. The two components have a glossy finish,

a treatment that allows you to see the beauty of the lines and the perfection of each weld that

proves once again the high level of quality of this model.

Without doubt, one of the most important features of the new 4RIDE is ergonomics (the saddle is 880 mm

height), resulting in greater comfort and ease of driving as its orientation "adventure". In

particular, the compact size of the bike and the engine, along with its slim silhouette,

contribute to the ability to touch the ground with both feet, giving a sense of added security

riders of any stature. Another aspect of ergonomics relates to model the ends of the handlebar,

high and open, to ensure greater driving comfort and maximum maneuverability. In this sense must be

also highlighted the increased width footrest.

Under the seat, easily removable by hand without the need for tools, are an important area of

load where you can enter, for example, a light jacket, gloves and any other object that may

be useful during an excursion.

It should be noted, especially considering the orientation 4RIDE, hiking is the tank

fuel capacity increased from 1.9 litres trial model to 4.4 litres of this model, which

represents a range of about 120 km.

As for the tyres, 4RIDE mounts the new Dunlop D803GP, capable of an incredible

traction. These new features make the motorcycle tires even more responsive and make

the front end very agile.

4RIDE weight in running order is only 85 kg, a lightness that ensures maximum ease-of-use,

extreme manoeuvrability and agility in all circumstances.

Suspensions

4RIDE suspensions have been deeply revisited in order to provide the best performance for the

Hiking trials. So, the TECH is now adjustable fork 38 mm longer and has more than 24 mm

excursion. R16V rear suspension, also award-adjustable, is now higher than 12 mm.

As a result, the 4RIDE presents a highly effective suspension group offering an excellent

compromise between lightness, comfort, handiness and ease of driving. With these new

suspensions, the 4RIDE is able to easily absorb the irregularities of the ground and stands for

its easy adjustment in more technical areas or trialistiche or, on the contrary, in the search for a

greater damping for a more comfortable ride.

As for a trials bike fork leg houses the hydraulic braking, while the other part

elastic. All this translates into an exceptional lightness. The most progressive fork spring

gives great sensitivity and comfort without losing the wonderful sensation of lightness. As far as

about the rear suspension is manually adjustable in rebound and compression without

need for tools.

 

 

Brakes

The brakes are of the Beaktec. Both discs, front and rear, are kind of Wave, an aspect that helps

heat dissipation and cleaning pads, and avoid overheating by improving

braking performance.

The front end is equipped with a 4-piston monoblock caliper. The gripper, besides being sturdy and

precise, making it efficient and powerful braking. To achieve the same goal, the rear brake is disk

been increased from 150 to 180 mm, in view of the fact that the 4RIDE can be used for long

transfers and where terrain requires more brake power.

High quality equipment

The 4RIDE maintains the characteristics of high quality components, such as the advanced electric system

without battery that powers, among others, the injection system and the ignition coil. It should also be noted

the use of a tilt sensor which switches off the engine when the motorcycle is tilted

over 65 degrees for more than 7 seconds. With this device significantly reduces exposure to risk pilot

of accidents while the engine is protected so that it can remain.

 

The rear wheel maintains its usual configuration with 32 spokes with Central adjustment

enables a significant reduction in weight, easy maintenance and Assembly of

tubeless tire, all for the benefit of the reduction of the masses.

 

 

 

 

Montesa 4RIDE-technical features

ENGINE

Type 4-stroke, single-cylinder, SOHC 4valve, liquid-cooled

258.9 cc displacement

Bore x stroke 78 × 54.2 mm

Compression ratio 10.5:1

Idle 1800 rpm giri/min

Engine oil capacity 0.6 litres; Transmission: 0.57 litres

POWER SUPPLY

Carburetion PGM-FI electronic fuel injection

28 mm throttle body

Sponge air filter

4.4 litre fuel tank capacity

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

Digital transistorized electronic ignition

Advance 27° BTDC (idle) ~ 45° BTDC (10.000 min-1)

Candle type CR6EH-9 (NGK)

Kick starter

Alternator power 160 W

TRANSMISSION

Multi-plate clutch in oil bath with coil springs

Hydraulic clutch operation

5 Exchange reports

3166 primary ratio (57/18)

Gear ratios 1st 2385 (31/13)

2A 1,933 (15/29)

3rd 1500 (18/27)

4A 1130 (23/26)

5A 0814 (22/27)

Final report 4100 (41/10)

Final drive chain # 520

FRAME

Aluminium double beam type.

Dimensions (L × w × h) 2,034 × 832 × 1160 mm

1333 mm wheelbase

Caster angle 23°

885 mm seat height

Footrest height 390 mm

Height 330 mm

Dry weight 81 kg

SUSPENSIONS

TECH Telescopic fork front 39 mm cartridge, adjustable

preload and rebound. 199 mm stroke

Rear pro-link with preload adjustable R16V damper

and rebound. 170 mm travel

WHEELS

Spoked aluminum type

Front wheels size 21 × 1.60

18 rear × 2.15

Front tire 80/100-21 (Dunlop)

Rear 120/100 R18 (Dunlop)

75 Front tire pressure – 100kPa

50 back – 80kPa

BRAKES

Front disc brake with 4-piston monoblock caliper and pads

sintered metal. Disk from 185 × 3.5 mm.

Rear disc brake with 2-piston caliper and metal pads

sintered. Disk from 180 × 3.5 mm.

All the features are tentative and may be changed without prior notice.

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Here you go. Bing translator so may be a bit off!

Introduction

Montesa in 1991 stopped the production of Evasión, the company has focused its

attention exclusively on the production of specific models from Trial: Cota, Cota 314R 311, Cota 315R and

Finally, Cota 4RT, a model that has generated a true revolution in the world thanks to a Trial

engine completely new and revolutionary in 4T and 4 distribution and supply valves

PGM-FI electronic fuel injection.

Following the principles of combining advanced technology with extreme respect for the environment,

in 2013 Montesa Cota presented 4RT260, a completely renovated model that offered a

noticeable improvement in performance while retaining the main features of the Cota 4RT.

In addition, Montesa recently presented Cota 300RR competitive, a new model more oriented

the racing than Cota 4RT260, but still continues to use 4-stroke technology.

For this new season, Montesa 2016 has decided to introduce the new 4RIDE, a model that comes

the market to resume the concept introduced by the brand with models 247 and 348 Cota Cota.

Certainly, seeing this new 4RIDE, many will recognize some aspects of the model

Evasión, which was focused on hiking and Trial that stemmed directly from his 310 Cota

Trial version. So, 25 years later, considering the great demand and the changing

customer needs, Montesa decided to return to the concept of "adventure" of the Trial, one of the most

spectacular off-road disciplines.

Development concept

Montesa decided to broaden its range of models, and users, with this amazing RIDE, 4

Reinventing a concept oriented offroad pleasure of enjoying the mountain environment with a

greater ease and an incredible fun.

Up to now, Montesa had three models in its range of high quality, the Cota 4RT

260, Race Replica and Cota 300RR, whose main features are the advanced technology of their

4-stroke engines and the reliability of components. Maintaining the same design philosophy, the Team of

Montesa development, in close collaboration with the R&D of Honda Motor Co. Ltd., has worked hard to

develop the new 4RIDE, a trial hiking-oriented model that however does not give up to the highest

distinctive brand standards.

The concept of the new model is already clear in his name, 4RIDE: the number "4" reminds one of the

Montesa badges – 4-stroke engine – like play on the pronunciation of the number "Four", very

similar to "for", indicating his predisposition to a "Guide". Is a bike with

the home, which travel on the road and venture on our favorite trails, even the most

rough!

There are also "4", meaning "Four", the "objectives" of the new guide 4RIDE: adventure, fun, freedom and

versatility. In this context it is also interesting to note the large load capacity of 4RIDE, with

a large compartment under the seat, easy to access, where you can arrange numerous objects, such

example, a rain jacket or a light jacket, gloves and more.

The 4RIDE Development Team worked on the basis of the Cota 4RT260 to get a bike more

Adventure-oriented, with extraordinary ease of use and versatility. For this, the

engine has a completely redesigned gearbox ratio and longer than trials bike,

ensure peak performance and maximum driving comfort even on long journeys. In addition, with the

same goal, was revised ergonomics of the bike, with a true saddle at the right height and suspension

the increased height, to give a proper trim for road circulation and adapted to

off-road vehicle.

The power level is such that the 4RIDE you can drive with your license A2, clear objective of Montesa that

Thus caters to an audience seeking a motorcycle less radical than a Trial model, in order to

venture into the mountains without sacrificing quality and performance components necessary to

tackling technical areas and trialistiche.

Construction process

As for the 260 Montesa Cota 4RT, Cota and Cota Race Replica 300RR, 4RIDE are built in

modern Santa Perpetua de Mogoda, Barcelona. The plant incorporates the processes of

welding, construction of the petrol tank, and swingarm aluminum frame, ensuring

production uniformity for maximizing brand standards.

Design and style

Following the 4Rt260 and Cota, Cota 300RR red is the predominant color of the

new 4RIDE. Is this on the front fender, side panels and on the back of the saddle

(combined with black), red hubs and rims stickers. The 4RIDE logo is shown in black and

Black logo, Montesa, on both sides of the bike and fork sheaths, in this case with the

number "4" in red. This red color is combined with white plastic rear fender, where

We find the "M" logo in grey with Montesa "Offroad adventure" that defines

clearly this new orientation Montesa. The aluminium fuel tank is not

covered by plastic, leaving in the high quality of the material used. The hubs, red,

combine with black circles and rays, giving the 4RIDE a more sporty and

attractive, thanks to the handlebars, to turn black.

Montesa models are well known for high quality finishes and components that

maintain their properties intact over the years. We kept these features in new

4RIDE using plastic and stickers of the highest quality and great aesthetic impact.

Engine

4RIDE engine maintains the 258, 9cc 4T of Cota 4RT 260 and Race Replica. The novelty

trial models is in gear ratio, completely renovated. Given the orientation

"adventure" and more of the new model, the change was adapted for this purpose. While

in trials bike gear ratio is very short to address obstacles with a response

immediate opening of gas, on the five-speed 4RIDE have a longer relationship. with that

new, longer ranged, the pilot can always find the proper speed to address both

longer transfers is more technical areas such as trails and cross-country biking trails, particularly ".

Also the 4RIDE adopts a discharge of greater volume, larger and longer than that of Cota

4rt, to give a smoother response and less aggressive at the opening of the gas relative to a trials bike,

What to give comfort and drivability. For this purpose a pedal is also used in the

starting to make starting easier.

The remarkable performance of 4RIDE are also due to the adoption of the same fuel pump of Cota

260 and Race Replica, which provides a greater flow of fuel. This element, combined with the new

ECU mapping, involves a more substantial power curve especially at low and medium

schemes, the most widely used on this model.

Another important aspect is the engine brake reduction that was achieved by inserting a

decompression system in carter and meticulous work on electronics. Through this system,

When you close the throttle, engine braking is minimized by giving the rider the feeling of riding a bike more

Lightweight and easy to control.

Chassis

The new 4RIDE is equipped with a lightweight frame and a lightweight, aluminum swingarm

synonymous with great performance and reliability. The two components have a glossy finish,

a treatment that allows you to see the beauty of the lines and the perfection of each weld that

proves once again the high level of quality of this model.

Without doubt, one of the most important features of the new 4RIDE is ergonomics (the saddle is 880 mm

height), resulting in greater comfort and ease of driving as its orientation "adventure". In

particular, the compact size of the bike and the engine, along with its slim silhouette,

contribute to the ability to touch the ground with both feet, giving a sense of added security

riders of any stature. Another aspect of ergonomics relates to model the ends of the handlebar,

high and open, to ensure greater driving comfort and maximum maneuverability. In this sense must be

also highlighted the increased width footrest.

Under the seat, easily removable by hand without the need for tools, are an important area of

load where you can enter, for example, a light jacket, gloves and any other object that may

be useful during an excursion.

It should be noted, especially considering the orientation 4RIDE, hiking is the tank

fuel capacity increased from 1.9 litres trial model to 4.4 litres of this model, which

represents a range of about 120 km.

As for the tyres, 4RIDE mounts the new Dunlop D803GP, capable of an incredible

traction. These new features make the motorcycle tires even more responsive and make

the front end very agile.

4RIDE weight in running order is only 85 kg, a lightness that ensures maximum ease-of-use,

extreme manoeuvrability and agility in all circumstances.

Suspensions

4RIDE suspensions have been deeply revisited in order to provide the best performance for the

Hiking trials. So, the TECH is now adjustable fork 38 mm longer and has more than 24 mm

excursion. R16V rear suspension, also award-adjustable, is now higher than 12 mm.

As a result, the 4RIDE presents a highly effective suspension group offering an excellent

compromise between lightness, comfort, handiness and ease of driving. With these new

suspensions, the 4RIDE is able to easily absorb the irregularities of the ground and stands for

its easy adjustment in more technical areas or trialistiche or, on the contrary, in the search for a

greater damping for a more comfortable ride.

As for a trials bike fork leg houses the hydraulic braking, while the other part

elastic. All this translates into an exceptional lightness. The most progressive fork spring

gives great sensitivity and comfort without losing the wonderful sensation of lightness. As far as

about the rear suspension is manually adjustable in rebound and compression without

need for tools.

Brakes

The brakes are of the Beaktec. Both discs, front and rear, are kind of Wave, an aspect that helps

heat dissipation and cleaning pads, and avoid overheating by improving

braking performance.

The front end is equipped with a 4-piston monoblock caliper. The gripper, besides being sturdy and

precise, making it efficient and powerful braking. To achieve the same goal, the rear brake is disk

been increased from 150 to 180 mm, in view of the fact that the 4RIDE can be used for long

transfers and where terrain requires more brake power.

High quality equipment

The 4RIDE maintains the characteristics of high quality components, such as the advanced electric system

without battery that powers, among others, the injection system and the ignition coil. It should also be noted

the use of a tilt sensor which switches off the engine when the motorcycle is tilted

over 65 degrees for more than 7 seconds. With this device significantly reduces exposure to risk pilot

of accidents while the engine is protected so that it can remain.

The rear wheel maintains its usual configuration with 32 spokes with Central adjustment

enables a significant reduction in weight, easy maintenance and Assembly of

tubeless tire, all for the benefit of the reduction of the masses.

Montesa 4RIDE-technical features

ENGINE

Type 4-stroke, single-cylinder, SOHC 4valve, liquid-cooled

258.9 cc displacement

Bore x stroke 78 × 54.2 mm

Compression ratio 10.5:1

Idle 1800 rpm giri/min

Engine oil capacity 0.6 litres; Transmission: 0.57 litres

POWER SUPPLY

Carburetion PGM-FI electronic fuel injection

28 mm throttle body

Sponge air filter

4.4 litre fuel tank capacity

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

Digital transistorized electronic ignition

Advance 27° BTDC (idle) ~ 45° BTDC (10.000 min-1)

Candle type CR6EH-9 (NGK)

Kick starter

Alternator power 160 W

TRANSMISSION

Multi-plate clutch in oil bath with coil springs

Hydraulic clutch operation

5 Exchange reports

3166 primary ratio (57/18)

Gear ratios 1st 2385 (31/13)

2A 1,933 (15/29)

3rd 1500 (18/27)

4A 1130 (23/26)

5A 0814 (22/27)

Final report 4100 (41/10)

Final drive chain # 520

FRAME

Aluminium double beam type.

Dimensions (L × w × h) 2,034 × 832 × 1160 mm

1333 mm wheelbase

Caster angle 23°

885 mm seat height

Footrest height 390 mm

Height 330 mm

Dry weight 81 kg

SUSPENSIONS

TECH Telescopic fork front 39 mm cartridge, adjustable

preload and rebound. 199 mm stroke

Rear pro-link with preload adjustable R16V damper

and rebound. 170 mm travel

WHEELS

Spoked aluminum type

Front wheels size 21 × 1.60

18 rear × 2.15

Front tire 80/100-21 (Dunlop)

Rear 120/100 R18 (Dunlop)

75 Front tire pressure – 100kPa

50 back – 80kPa

BRAKES

Front disc brake with 4-piston monoblock caliper and pads

sintered metal. Disk from 185 × 3.5 mm.

Rear disc brake with 2-piston caliper and metal pads

sintered. Disk from 180 × 3.5 mm.

All the features are tentative and may be changed without prior notice.

Thanks that's brilliant,much appeciated

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4RIDE

3166 primary ratio (57/18)

Gear ratios 1st 2385 (31/13)

2A 1,933 (15/29)

3rd 1500 (18/27)

4A 1130 (23/26)

5A 0814 (22/27)

Final report 4100 (41/10)

Final drive chain # 520

4RT 260

Primary Reduction…3.166 (57/18)

Gear Ratios

1… 2.800 (42/15)

2… 2.384 (31/13)

3… 2.000 (30/15)

4… 1.272 (28/22)

5… 0.814 (22/27)

Final Reduction…4.100 (41/10)

Final Drive…520 roller chain

I use my 260 for trails mostly. Unless it's really tight 1st never gets used, 2nd only rarely, mostly use 3rd to pull away from lights as the first two gears see you pulling 10mph, I may be exaggerating a bit but you get the point. 4th is wheelie gear and 5th will probably push 60+ but I don't see the point.

So this new bike has a much healthier spread of gears for my use. I still suspect I wouldn't use 1st often though, we'll see. 3rd AND 4th would now be wheelie gear I imagine. If I had a choice I would've made 5th a little longer in the leg for cruising though, although a cog change would probably fix that if required.

It all looks perfect to me. Apart from the number plate hanger, the near vertical part, although it looks easily removed from the photo's. Great to have lights now it's gone dark and a brake light too!

Personally, I could use an electric start. If anyone knows how to mod this engine to fit one do tell. I really don't care about a little extra weight. It's even got room under the seat for a Lithium battery...so some heated grips would always be welcome too which I reckon will now be possible.

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I have read one artical that indicated there is still some refinement planed before the final release date, so maybe a few of the little things will get sorted.

(hope so myself)

Looking forward to seeing one in person!

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Enough storage space for a glove (apparently) but whereas a trials bike presents its own limitations on use I'm not convinced this sort of bike is a good idea, there being almost nowhere to use it legally.

Do we really want to be encouraging the irresponsible to buy a bike and use it "everywhere" as implied?

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C R Mudgeon

 

I think in Spain and surroundings, and the alps there is space for this kind of bikes. They are too expensive for people to buy it to mess around, I think serious riders will buy it.

 

I wouldnt, same reason I would not buy a freeride or alp or so, I just dont have mountains in my back yard. I think there are people driving ''big'' enduro bikes around places, who only go there for the view and experience and dont need the power of those bikes, and would rather have a lighter, more easily usable bike, with (probably) less sound and damage to the terrain.

 

There are people doing trips with trial bikes, which would find confort in a seat and slightly more possibilities for taking some food and water etc.

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