imexian Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lets all buy Vertigos, then we can go with a herd! Vert/Beta/Sherco/Mont/Scorpa = Good Ossa = bad.....As the messiah of all trial and font of knowledge ND says.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman_swe Posted December 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Anyway GGwellinformed Thanks again for the info; first relevant info here for a while... Seems like a curse being trialsbikemanufacturer. The British brands grinding to a halt in the late 60s-70s (killed by Sammy M and the Spanish; there is a reason that there is a pre-65 class). The Spanish brands in the 80s (Montesa saved by Honda) and the Italians in the 90s (only Beta surviving and Aprilia withdrawing). GG, Beta, MH (getting stronger and now with reasonably priced 4st), Sherco the big four. Ossa on the breaking point making it big 5; though questionable leader/ownership and GG stood in their way (we'll lets see if someone saves them). Scorpa reborn by Sherco, JTG still small (and unlikely to step up without JT), TRS (with JT and Raga) will be interesting to follow and Vertigo is the highest aimer (will they establish themselves for the big market before they run out of money). + the kids and electrical bike manufacturers. The biggest future and challenge in the next 10 years is to develop a competitive and priseworthy electrical trialsbike with batteries lasting a full day (Torrot and GGs main target ????). Just my personal summing up... /TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie_lejeune Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 electric bike will never be the same until they develop a proper clutch and not an on and off switch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman_swe Posted December 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Yepp will take loads of development... But with petrol price 5€+ per litre and all fuel powered bikes taxed up (prices 10k€+) and banned on many training areas. Wonder if this is 5-10 or 20 years away). The greens are taking over and also making it harder to find training areas... Electric bikes may get access to more urban areas (no smoke or noise). The Swedish WCH round organizer actually had problems with their traing area a few years ago. Complaints about noise. (rubbish with MX and Gocart on the same site and closest neighboor 2km away...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasgas249uk Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 electric bike will never be the same until they develop a proper clutch and not an on and off switch Exactly ... It seems to me the electric bike manufacturers have been taking the mickey to date... as the current crop are so minimally developed. Once the Mecatecno comes out its going to make the others look so bloated and low tech . It is a game changer believe me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman_swe Posted December 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) One of the key success points right now is also the battery time and/or price for replacement packs <1k€ for exchange batterypacks is a must... A breakthrough would be for a Ebike to survive the SSDT without having to change pack during the day (maybe first try with one allowed change at lunch stop) and only allowing change at parc ferme unless getting 50 penalty points or so. Edited December 10, 2015 by jagman_swe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Lets all buy Vertigos, then we can go with a herd! Vert/Beta/Sherco/Mont/Scorpa = Good Ossa = bad.....As the messiah of all trial and font of knowledge ND says.... You're just being silly Ian, again. I never said it was bad just that if it was as good as you say then others would have agreed with you and bought more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imexian Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Sorry dude, i beg to differ, you have stuck the boot in every time some one says anything positive regarding Ossa, come to think of it most bikes actually!! You will never steamroller me with your opinions, i say what i think, its unfortunate what has gone on with a very good machine, but look what happened to GG? Are you saying no one purchased those? so they have gone dpwn?? Its a dog eat dog world, they were spendthift with the wonga, and a few other dodgy things, poor build as well, but so were GG when Pro first came out, i know i had one..... Does not make it bad bike just as usual, rushed out to get the wedge in, Vertigo dont seem to have that prob with M. Jane backing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 cant see why youre missing the point every time. Its not trying to steamroller anyone, its a balanced argument to which youve never offered a decent opposing view except "its my opinion". GG pro were not briliant when they came out agreed but that was ten years ago whats that got to do with Ossa? Ive even said what bike you have is your choice and thats what trials is about. Stuck the boot in how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imexian Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Andy, so whats the diff with the Ossa? rubbish build at first a lot better later?? I'll let anyone disagree with me?/you rubbish everything.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianmoller Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Hello, Was about to buy me an Ossa again after 25 years of not riding a bike. Former bikes was actually a -75 ossa 250 and the last one a -81 350.............old and Heavy. My concern is spares and software/Cable. Follow this with interest. Have a nice evening Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imexian Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Chris, if you want one buy it, lifes to short, its a great bike, just ride it!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianmoller Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Chris, if you want one buy it, lifes to short, its a great bike, just ride it!! Yes,i probably will if i can find anyone that sells the software/cable so it's possible to tinker with the FI in case of any problems there. /C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imexian Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 you are finding probs that are not there, forget cables, you dont need to tinker, there are no problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman_swe Posted December 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yes,i probably will if i can find anyone that sells the software/cable so it's possible to tinker with the FI in case of any problems there. /C Well you have Peter A at Bohus däck near you or Claes P in Norrahammar that can help you set up the bike with help of the SW/cables. It's only needed if you think the idle speed doesn't suit you or the fuel mixture is too rich or lean for your riding style. /TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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