cbennett5199 Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm new to trials and am looking at two used bikes: 2005 Montesa Corta 4RT and a 2011 GasGas 250TXT. Asking price for both is the same - the Montesa appears to be almost mint (orig owner), while the GasGas is scratched up but in excellent shape. I don't care about aesthetics that much, except for the resale value and, yeh, it's kind of nice to put my own dents in a bike. Also, I'm not sure if parts availability will be significantly different between the two. Thank you!! in advance for any ideas and suggestions. I've done some research on-line but haven't found anything that deals with my specific options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Both are good bikes. Depends on if you want to hop and bop all day long, I`d pick the Gasser. If you want a good solid bike and just enjoy the sport without being the `new` top rider I`d take the Montesa. Both bikes can do anything, but the Gasser is easier to learn the tricks on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shercoben12 Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 gasser easier for new guy i reckon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonboy883 Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Surely this is the whole two stroke or four stroke debate. The question is, what have you ridden before. Do you have a preference? The gasser may demand more mantainence, how good are you with spannering? How fit are, are you going to be wanting to do all the hopping etc, or do you think your style will be old style sections, I mean ride them through, not bouncing and hopping to go for the trophies. I'm in my forties, my best fitness days are behind me, I have kids so can't spend hours in the shed tinkering, I want a bike I can ride tidily, hose off, then go to a week or two later and repeat the process, whilst always giving me the smile factor. I'd have the 4RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micm Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 "I want a bike I can ride tidily, hose off, then go to a week or two later and repeat the process, whilst always giving me the smile factor. I'd have the 4RT" Funnily enough that's exactly what I do with my 2011 Gasser. Maintenance is simple, hardly anything goes wrong with it, although it gets ridden every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totty79 Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 If your choice is for some reason limited to these, I'd simply go for the newer bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantic305 Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 4rt all day long and you don't loose much money and you spend very little on them and make no difference as your new to riding so learn the 4rt and you'll be rewarded !!!:-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Have to be a very clean 4rt and a fairly rough Gasser for them to be the same price with a 6 year age difference,how much are they?4rt will last forever with proper maintenance but not everyone gets on with them,particularly when slippery.Gasser is lighter and pokies,but it didn't get scratched without being used fairly hard .Bikes that look rough generally need a good going over to get them right,which gets expensive.Has it got to be either of these 2 bikes?theres plenty out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 If in fact the statement "the Montesa appears to be almost mint" is really true and the Gas Gas is scratched that makes me want to side with the 4RT. As for expectations and what level and type of riding you want to do the above comments are well placed. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbennett5199 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thanks for the input. Man, this can be kind of confusing. I hear from some folks.... get the newer bike - it's lighter, easier to find parts, two-stroke is a simpler setup, beware of the mint older bike that hasn't been ridden much, etc etc. Then of course there are valid, good points from you all and others about why the gasser/4RT is actually the way to go. FWIW, I'm in my 50s, in pretty good shape, and have ridden dual sports for years. The objective is to get something that will be fun, keep me riding slower, and good for balance, skill development and so on. I have no desire at this point to compete. I am good at wrenching, do pretty much everything myself on my bikes. Hmmmm... In any case, your input is much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thanks for the input. Man, this can be kind of confusing. I hear from some folks.... get the newer bike - it's lighter, easier to find parts, two-stroke is a simpler setup, beware of the mint older bike that hasn't been ridden much, etc etc. Then of course there are valid, good points from you all and others about why the gasser/4RT is actually the way to go. FWIW, I'm in my 50s, in pretty good shape, and have ridden dual sports for years. The objective is to get something that will be fun, keep me riding slower, and good for balance, skill development and so on. I have no desire at this point to compete. I am good at wrenching, do pretty much everything myself on my bikes. Hmmmm... In any case, your input is much appreciated. In that case Get the Montesa 4RT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Surely this is the whole two stroke or four stroke debate. The question is, what have you ridden before. Do you have a preference? The gasser may demand more mantainence, how good are you with spannering? How fit are, are you going to be wanting to do all the hopping etc, or do you think your style will be old style sections, I mean ride them through, not bouncing and hopping to go for the trophies. I'm in my forties, my best fitness days are behind me, I have kids so can't spend hours in the shed tinkering, I want a bike I can ride tidily, hose off, then go to a week or two later and repeat the process, whilst always giving me the smile factor. I'd have the 4RT. Maintenance for a 250 gasser isnt any more for a newby and you should learn how to do these things anyway. Guess a 250 gg is easier to sell on and im guessing the 05 4rt is overpriced. Easier to ride and learn on too Get the gasser. Edited November 11, 2015 by nigel dabster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 ffs put your location in the world PLEASE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duggan Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 The 4rt will have aged much better than a 4 almost 5 year old GG. The Montesa is a solid bike with a little bit more weight, the GG is light and nimble but fragile, especially if it's been ridden hard. If you were competing at the top level In your area I'd say buy a 2014 / 2015 300 GG it's without a doubt the most competitive bike, but for everything else the Montesa would be a great choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totty79 Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thanks for the input. Man, this can be kind of confusing. I hear from some folks.... get the newer bike - it's lighter, easier to find parts, two-stroke is a simpler setup, beware of the mint older bike that hasn't been ridden much, etc etc. Then of course there are valid, good points from you all and others about why the gasser/4RT is actually the way to go. FWIW, I'm in my 50s, in pretty good shape, and have ridden dual sports for years. The objective is to get something that will be fun, keep me riding slower, and good for balance, skill development and so on. I have no desire at this point to compete. I am good at wrenching, do pretty much everything myself on my bikes. Hmmmm... In any case, your input is much appreciated. It's bound to be confusing as without knowing it you're reopening many debates - the bike that is considered best built vs one that people argue over if it's fragile or not, 2 stroke vs 4 stroke, how big a difference bike weight makes to a learner, long engine life with complex rebuilds vs shorter life but easier rebuild, which bike finds grip best etc. Then you've got to add in any bias or brand loyalty from those who reply, factor in the age of the bikes and that no one has seen the condition first hand or knows the prices etc.... They're both good bikes. Personally I'd go for a Beta over either of them, but that's just the choice I made when I bought my current bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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