huski Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Only thing that hasn't changed is that it's far more the rider than the bike.Bikes are far lighter,better brakes and suspension,more powerful and run better,to the point that they're far better than most of us can do justice to.Trials was in better shape back then with more venues and riders and I think generally were harder 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) i rode Trials constantly as a kid , tl125 was new .. and stopped right as the ty80 came out . I wish that scenario was reversed as the Honda was just a tad to big for me , but I managed ...I didn't ride a trials bike again until 2005 when I rediscovered the sport and got my 240 Fantc . Trials Tech milestones IMHO .... 1;Spanish bikes (enough said) 2;The fantic 240 motor (changed the way we rode ) 3; Disc brakes !! 4;The Beta Zero and the TY Mono . (changed design forever !!!) 5; and since then , it's all been fine tuning the design . Just my 2 pence ... Glenn But it still is 98.9% rider , not the bike .... Edited January 9, 2016 by axulsuv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey125 Posted January 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Thanks for the comments, got a lot more than I was expecting! Summary of comments seems to be there was a big change around 2000, and either side of that its been continuous small improvements. The comment I find most interesting is the improvements in brakes. Another very objective question do people feel this is due to the reduction in bike weights or are the 4 pot calipers a big improvement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 The brakes just got better, more power and better feel. 4 pots were around way before the brakes were good. So it took 15 years before discs were really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ric h Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Advances in metallurgy and the ability to produce lighter,stronger and more complex pieces has had a lot to do with what we have now.The modern crankcase is far superior to the old stuff as are the alloy materials used in our modern bikes.Aluminum fork stanchions,nikasil lined cylinders,alloy bash plates etc etc.And without modern computers,none of this would be possible. Love my Ossa tr280i,but i really like tinkering with my ty175 in all it's simplicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbelly Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Not a lot by judging what this 20 year old bike could do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Illustrates also Finnys incredible ability,not many from that era could get near that.Its still more rider than bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I know Jason Finn was still doing shows a few years ago, is he still doing them? Anyone know why he gave up on trials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbelly Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) I know Jason Finn was still doing shows a few years ago, is he still doing them? Anyone know why he gave up on trials? Money I Guess, There is an interview on YouTube look for "Jason finn interview" jason said he retired from shows when he hit 40' he is 46 now so I'm guessing old age stopped him, the interview shows his house and old bikes, one of only a few who have ever made a lot of money through riding a Trials bike Edited January 11, 2016 by ironbelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Did some stunt work too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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