doc_d Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I rode dirt bikes as a teen, road bikes in my 30s. Now I'm in my mid 40s and have been racing road bicycles and mountain bikes for 10 years. I've always been fond of trials (motorcycle and bicycle) and recently found out there are some active clubs here in Michigan. So I'm thinking about giving it a shot. I've been keeping my eye out for used bikes for a few months now. It's winter here so I haven't had the chance to get out and talk to the locals. I did chat with one on the phone and he gave me the impression that 250s are great for everyone and 300s are a "handful". I'm just looking for a second opinion. Unlike Europe, trials bikes are a little harder to come by here. There is a nice 2015 Beta 300 available for a good price. I don't mind passing on it if that gentleman's advice is correct that it would be too much for me, but I want to be sure before because several months can go by before another used trials bikes pops up locally. Thanks!Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btc273 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Buy it I have ridden a bike like that it is wonderful.a little soft or flat on the bottom but that is good for traction. Very easy to ride. as far as being a handful, the bike will only do what you make it do. I think the latest 300s are as easy to ride as a 250 just more if you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcman56 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 It may depend on your throttle control. I have a 2014 Beta 300 and there is nothing abrupt about the power. It is powerful but very smooth in response so not hard to manage. Many people feel that 300s are actually easier to ride. But if you take big stabs at the throttle, a smaller engine may be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_t Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 there was a bit of 300 / 250 banter in this thread... http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/topic/57920-what-would-you-buy/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc_d Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Thanks for the replies. After reading the thread below, it sounds like I'd definitely be better off holding out for a 250 or smaller bike. there was a bit of 300 / 250 banter in this thread... http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/topic/57920-what-would-you-buy/ Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Although I would generally advise a 250 or 200 is the best size of bike to start on I would not necessarily let it be the overruling factor particularly when buying secondhand. If a good 300 Beta (which does have softish bottom end power for a 300) were available I would be temped to buy it, fit a slow action throttle and extra base gaskets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goudrons Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 You can always rein in a 300 fairly easily, yet still have the amazing torque they produce. A slower action throttle and perhaps gear it down a tooth on the gearbox sprocket will help tie it to the floor and overcome the urgency some 300's tend to offer. In the UK Betas are fitted with heavier flywheels (pre 2015 this was just a weight bolted to the face) which tend to calm down their mid throttle punch, but the same effects can be reproduced with the above cheaply enough. Then once you're ready for the full fat 300, it's just a matter of swapping a few bits back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totty79 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Personally I don't think it makes much difference while you're in control, but when you screw up that extra throttle response really doesn't help. I recently spent 3 hours on a 125 and for what I can ride it was easily good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftp Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I wouldnt recommend a 300 for a newbie - I ride not bad and a have a bought a 300 Scorpa 2015 for this year and will maybe go to a 250 next year. I think a newbie would find it pretty tiring on 300 (certainly a scorpa 2015) and would learn quicker on a 200/250. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_earle Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Id advise a 250. 300's are great news for the importers as rear mudguards are £100 a go and they use words like Novice to Expert in the spec sheets for them!! It must be a conspiracy to make more in plastics than they do in bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 The flywheel weight does the trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.e.lucas Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I say get it because it's good condition, good price, and could be waiting months. Put the slow throttle tube on it and if things go wrong pull in the clutch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Id advise a 250. 300's are great news for the importers as rear mudguards are £100 a go and they use words like Novice to Expert in the spec sheets for them!! It must be a conspiracy to make more in plastics than they do in bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybond700 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) I think sometimes the 300 gets a bit overrated on power. It has more, but its not like if you slighty use the throttle you will get shot away. It might even be a little bit more manageable power compared to a 280 e.g. But I think a 250 is more than good enough, so that will do perfectly fine. Important skills to learn are throttle and mainly clutch control so just practise that a lot. Edited January 14, 2016 by crazybond700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guys Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 I think sometimes the 300 gets a bit overrated on power. It has more, but its not like if you slighty use the throttle you will get shot away. It might even be a little bit more manageable power compared to a 280 e.g. But I think a 250 is more than good enough, so that will do perfectly fine. Important skills to learn are throttle and mainly clutch control so just practise that a lot. And also (rear) brake control to keep the bike under control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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