gasgas249uk Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 The quality is very good ,the chassis feels good .... but the engine !!!!. I rode a brand new 250 and I couldn't believe how gutless it was. My childhood c90 felt like it had the same power. They might last forever but they aren't the fun of riding a 2 stroke. No chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motomofo1 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 The 300RR is a huge improvement over the 250 (haven't tried a 260). Motor is awesome, and the suspension is fantastic. I liked it way more than I expected, and will seriously consider one as my next bike (current ride is a GG 300 Factory Replica). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tman427 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Absolutly Not!!!!!!, Dont get me wrong they are a good bike, but they are not what Toni and Fuji ride. They have their short cummings just like every other bike. They are not a easy bike to ride for a Newbie, or eaven a novice level rider. They are heavy which makes them harder to ride, they have the worst turning radius of every bike out there, so unless you can hop or flick your immediatly at a disadvantage.They are geared to tall for tight slow riding, so straight out of the box you need to spend eaven more money to slow them down. I have owned 3 of them from 2005 to 2009 and short of color they have not changed. My buddy has a 2014 repsol and short of the bigger displacement, it feels just the same as the earlier models. My opinion for a club level rider, if you want 4 stroke go with the Beta, it is a much lighter easier bike to ride and it out turns any other bike out there!!!!! Just bought a new 2016 Montesa standard. Got tired of repairs on my Beta Evo 4T....motor issues. Edited January 21, 2016 by tman427 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishtwinspring Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 As you well know james "power corrupts" , the 4rt may not have the absolute power of a 300 2st but they use whats there with very good effect, and matching what a screaming stroker does on just off idle with a mont is an awful lot of "fun" believe me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribet Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 The quality is very good ,the chassis feels good .... but the engine !!!!. I rode a brand new 250 and I couldn't believe how gutless it was. My childhood c90 felt like it had the same power. They might last forever but they aren't the fun of riding a 2 stroke. No chance Try opening the throttle a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasgas249uk Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 As you well know james "power corrupts" , the 4rt may not have the absolute power of a 300 2st but they use whats there with very good effect, and matching what a screaming stroker does on just off idle with a mont is an awful lot of "fun" believe me. I know I'm metaphorically a mouse in a snake pit on this thread with you Honda devout Catholics . Genuinely though. .. I'm reasonable enough to know that most of you guys riding these things drop hundreds less than me Try opening the throttle a bit. Ha ha yes.. but not a lot happened. .. it just made more noise 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishtwinspring Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Tis a lovely noise though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Makes me wonder if the one you took a ride on didn't have the full power map enabled... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montesa300rr Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Apart from a chainsaw a two stroke trials bike is about the only two stroke engine on the planet. Also a wasn't a carburettor designed pre war some 80 years ago. Come on its 2016 ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montesa300rr Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I see HONDA a major manufacturer so our hard earned money is safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Parts prices are realistic too, not like some Beta stuff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_rhondda Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 As mentioned in my previous post I am new to 4rt ownership. Do people stick to the 15hrs religiously for oil and filter changes? Thanks,Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 6 week oil change if riding every week and then oil and filter change every 12 seems to work ok. Crf filters available for £2 to £3 if you look about. Probably cheaper than 2 stroke oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Apart from a chainsaw a two stroke trials bike is about the only two stroke engine on the planet. Also a wasn't a carburettor designed pre war some 80 years ago. Come on its 2016 ! I think you will find plenty of ships, trains and motocross bikes use 2 stroke engines. A Carburettored bike is currently leading the indoor WTC. I think its about time Honda moved to a downdraft inlet tract, this would enable them to put the air filter up where the fuel tank is and put the fuel tank low down in the centre of the bike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky boy Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I think its about time Honda moved to a downdraft inlet tract, this would enable them to put the air filter up where the fuel tank is and put the fuel tank low down in the centre of the bike. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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