greeves Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) I'am still a bit astonished about the Sherpa's sent to Tahiti and Guatemala. You have a lot of Spanish classic bikes in all south American´s countries. Many in use. Here you have a Sherpa for sale in Guatemala... https://ciudaddeguatemala.olx.com.gt/moto-de-trial-clasica-bultaco-iid-779779295 But bit expensive though... 32,000 Quetzal = 3.800€ My curiosity is big about those Sudanese Bultacos. Let´s dee if I can know something more about that. Edited February 3, 2016 by greeves 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeves Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Hi pschrauber, I have been serching for those Sudanese Bultacos and the only thing I have found is that in 1984 there was a number of militar Bultacos send to Sudan. In the same file they speak about 300 military Bultacos build by CEMOTO sold to Somalia Governent in 1984. To be honest what I think is this bikes were in the Spanish Army stock and was the government selling the "old fashioned"bikes both to Somalia and Sudan Armies and not CEMOTO doing so. What I think the bikes were Military Alpinas as the one in the pic build before 1981. In fact I drove one of those during my military service in 1983 in the Military Police 103 Squad. in Menorca Island were we had two of those bikes to patrol in a huge land the army had for a coast artillery battery in La Mola and were sometimes there were poachers shooting quails, partridges and rabbits!!!! If you are curious to check the file, they speak about the Bultacos in pages 280 and 283: http://www.fbofill.cat/sites/default/files/Dos_05.pdf Edited February 3, 2016 by greeves 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yes that makes sense. The numbers are equal and Somalia and Sudan, ... well there might be some translation issues too the communication wasn' t as good then. It can be that the used military bikes which had seen service for at least four years got an "refurbish" before they were sent abroad. This procedure is at least very common in Germany when used military stuff from the Bundeswehr is sold to foreign country's by the government it get overhauled by the factory were they were build. As CEMOTO was already paid through the government why shouldn't they hit two birds with one stone and let them overhaul the bikes from them before they were sent to Somalia. That's quite a huge study project thesis! OFF TOPIC MODE ON Anyway cool incident I was too at the Military Police (Feldjäger) in the Army during my service time and had too ridden bikes sometimes in my army service time, mostly we used cars. We had Hercules offroad bikes and BMW street bikes. The Hercules was a little bit to much underpowered and I managed to break the frame off one when riding in the woods. My service stations were spread over Germany Celle 3 month, Sonthofen (Alpes) 6 month then Bremen, in between Wilhelmshaven and Bremerhaven (in service for the US Navy). OFF TOPIC MODE OFF 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 What I think the bikes were Military Alpinas as the one in the pic build before 1981. In fact I drove one of those during my military service in 1983 in the Military Police 103 Squad. in Menorca Island were we had two of those bikes to patrol in a huge land the army had for a coast artillery battery in La Mola and were sometimes there were poachers shooting quails, partridges and rabbits!!!! Riding bikes in menorca and getting paid? Where do i apply to join this army? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Most have probably read this but it's a good read like the rest of the site. http://www.retrotrials.com/exclusive-ignacio-bulto-interview-20122.html In my opinion the last true Bultaco would be when Paco still had control of the company Dont agree. The last one is the last one whoever made it, thought of concept, put it together or bought it. If Paco lost control in 79 then are you saying none of the bultaco 340's were "genuine"? Edited February 4, 2016 by nigel dabster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrb505 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I suppose you could say that Paco is Bultaco Nothing really special happened after the Soler Sherpas in my opinion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeves Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I suppose you could say that Paco is Bultaco Nothing really special happened after the Soler Sherpas in my opinion Maybe you call "Soler Sherpas" to a different model? because here in Spain we call Soler Sherpas to models 158, 159 (238 in France), 182 183, 190 and 191... So for us after the Soler Sherpas came the 199 and 199A models with Vesterinen Word Champion in 77 & 78; Schreiber World Champion 79 and Lampkin SSDT Champion 77 & 78 with this bikes. I agree Bultaco soul was all about the enthusiasm and love for bikes and competition of D. Paco Bultó. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrb505 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Maybe you call "Soler Sherpas" to a different model? because here in Spain we call Soler Sherpas to models 158, 159 (238 in France), 182 183, 190 and 191... So for us after the Soler Sherpas came the 199 and 199A models with Vesterinen Word Champion in 77 and 78; Schreiber World Champion 79 and Lampkin SSDT Champion 77 and 78 with this bikes. I agree Bultaco soul was all about the enthusiasm and love for bikes and competition of D. Paco Bultó. Yes they are the models I call Soler as wellThe later models are nice bikes but the earlier models up to and including the Soler models were a piece of art in my opinion 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 The only model that does it for me is the 340. Its heritage from previous models is absolutely clear to see, it was an improvement and step forward as well. We all love bultaco, just in different ways...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeves Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Yes they are the models I call Soler as well The later models are nice bikes but the earlier models up to and including the Soler models were a piece of art in my opinion In the times of the Soler models I was riding Montesas... I was given a 198 in 1977 and a 199A two years later, so for me those are the most exciting Bultacos ever. Although the nicest peace of art inside trials bikes ever for me is... this petrol tank! Edited February 5, 2016 by greeves 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa325 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Possibly the prettiest bike ever 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowrider Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 I know this is an old post, but could this be the holy grail your looking for? https://www.bike-urious.com/no-reserve-1983-bultaco-sherpa-199b/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot taco Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) For sale in the US. Tried to up load a pic of the whole bike but not smart enough to get the file to an acceptable size but it’s complete with head light. Edited June 22, 2022 by scot taco 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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