renegade master Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Hi Guys, My 1998 txt 270 is puzzling me when it takes over 30 kicks to start it! it never used to be like that! but once its runng is fine and will start frist kick after that! The bike is a quick bike, it has slow action throttle on it and makes no difference what so ever. I cleaned airbox and filter, pulled carb off and cleaned it, only thing i noticed was on the chock jet, the rubber O-ring was a bit perrished on one side, so im not sure if that would stop it starting? I replaced the plug in it, for a new one too. any suggestions? Cheers Regards, Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totty79 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Check you're applying the choke, the lever has some resistance and goes near vertical when on, the easy movement is just taking up the slack ..........done that myself. Otherwise I'd replace that O-ring before looking at any of the other things that can cause poor starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Do a compression check. Pretty sure your top end is about done after your last post. Hard starting is a sign of low compression . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Listen to Lineaway !!!!..... (any 2t ....) When my 2t's don't start by the 3rd or 4th kick , I go there first ... Glenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourian Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 Are you turning your fuel tap off when bike is not being used? Does your fuel tap work? From cold, with no choke, kick it over a couple of times (no more) take the plug out, is it soaking wet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelieman14 Posted January 28, 2016 Report Share Posted January 28, 2016 If compression check is good, then check reeds to see if the ends of the petals are frayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 What fuel:oil ratio are you running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copemech Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 What fuel:oil ratio are you running? Yea, maybe you pour in more oil it will help the worn out rings seal! Try the 30:1 ratio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegade master Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Hell! you guys think the top end could be gone or starting to go? dam! i will do a compression test on it Monday evening if i get a chance, I have an old compression tester some where n the bike shed, I will probably have to cross refrance it with a test on the other TX270 are there both same year of bikes and engine size, my fuel mix is about 80:1 i think! when i do get the bike fried up it goes like hell, fuel tap is not working propraly as when you shut it off and pull the pipe petrol still comes out! I will try your plug test as well, last time i pulled the plug a few days go it was dry light brown color with build up on the inside of plug The bike was a slightly hard starter when I got it, i mean you could start it on frist kick if you gave it a belter, but if you missed it on the frist kick it would take about 10 after that! Ok thanks for all the ideas, I will check them soon and post up results Regards, Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfc Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Possibly you have just unearthed your problem! If your fuel tap is not closing properly your bike could be gathering fuel in the sump while your bike is parked up over night or during the week, then when you try to start it it will not start until you have jettisoned that fuel out of the engine. Try disconnecting the fuel line after you have had it running and then try to restart it the next day. Good luck. Edited February 1, 2016 by jfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegade master Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Thanks! I will defently try that frist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegade master Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Ok got to work on the bike for a shoet time today, So I changed the fuel tap for a working one off a txt pro i had spare, I done the compression test too, now not sure if i tested it right or if the tester was working right eather so this was how i done it, took out plug and screwed in tester, then got TDC and kicked and got reading, then repeted 3 times to see if i got the same readings, heres what i got (TXT270 1998) compression test so while I had the plug out i gave it a few kicks to see, and yeah think there was slight petrol mist comming from head, so after that put plug back in and it started eazy! So guys i havent a clue about what it says on the compression gauge? but I tested some of my other bikes too, so it would give me a idea so here is the others i tested This is the TX270 (1998) This is the TXT pro (2004) This is the JTX270 (1997) The compression tests kinda seem all the same or close as, wonder if the tester is working right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybond700 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I guess the new petcock could be your problem solver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 That`s enough to start the bike easily with the kick starter. And yes a flooded bottom end will make your life miserable. You should be on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegade master Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just after going back out again now that the bike is cold and it started frist kick with choke out! i will try again tomorrow just to be sure, but its looking good that the new petcock has done the trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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