menglovekai Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Hi .I just got a 20hr of 2011 4RT Repsol from my friends The bike is in near perfect condition , I did all the oil change , spark plug changed , valve clearance checked , coolant level checked.It is very easy to start when cold .normally 1-3 slow and smooth kick. ( But when engine get hot after 1 hour of continuous practice (mostly short hill climbing, crossing gaps,trackstand) no sign of sluggish during ride at all. but If the motor stop it won't start again. I did reset the ECU , check the plug (spark and dry) , no smell of gas when start . still cannot start.engine sometime fireup for a few stroke and die . not touch the throttle. Air temperature 30 degree C, I have to wait 10 minutes and the motor start at the first kick . Do you have any experience why i can not do the hot start? Thanks.(I'm not good in English but i try to explain) Edited February 2, 2016 by menglovekai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Check air filter? Loose connection on a wire some place like a ground wire with some corrosion? Just a few guesses. I am sure some better ideas will be posted soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menglovekai Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) When the problem occur. I'm also try to remove the air filter but nothing happen. I test the "Bank angle sensor" by lean the bike down til footpeg touch the ground . The engine stop around six seconds on both side. Edited February 2, 2016 by menglovekai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.e.lucas Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Is the water pump good and the coolant circulating ok? Mine has done the same after an hour or so but air temperature was 42c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menglovekai Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Is the water pump good and the coolant circulating ok? Mine has done the same after an hour or so but air temperature was 42c Yes, I touch the waterpump cover and i feel the heat . The cooling fan seems ok . It start and stop periodically then steady ON after the engine get hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menglovekai Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Took the coil out , the Ground wire and clean. then the Rectifier connector , I notice the white rusty thing on the Red cable pin which supply the 12 V to the system.so i clean and WD-40 it a bit.I will post the result soon. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windwelder Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Make sure there is a little slack in the throttle cable, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrsunt Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Firstly I'd check the tick over (idle) is adequate. Then a new plug. Its worth removing the bank angle sensor altogether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aids Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I had the same problem on my Honda - open throttle full kick twice, then do a normal start works for me and other Honda rides I have have seen having starting problems when its hot Good luck Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menglovekai Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) This is what i have done yesterday .1. Change spark plug .2. Check and Clean all connector (Found 1 pin dirty at the Rectifier)3. Turn Aircrew out 1/8 turn to increase the Idle. I can sometimes start the engine when hot . But when the problem occured , the engine run for a 1-2 seconds and stop ( which manual say it was about the bank angle sensor )but if i wait about 5-10 minutes .It start normally. Next step I will bypass the bank angle sensor. Thanks for your suggestion. Edited February 3, 2016 by menglovekai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollox Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 When did the problem appear for the first time? Only after you have got the machine and have screwed onto it or already with the previous owner? If the previous owner has had no problems with it, you should check / repeat everything what you have touched and changed. By the way: check the tank ventilation. It does not fit really to the mistake description, however, it is good over and over again for surprises... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menglovekai Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) When did the problem appear for the first time? Only after you have got the machine and have screwed onto it or already with the previous owner? If the previous owner has had no problems with it, you should check / repeat everything what you have touched and changed. By the way: check the tank ventilation. It does not fit really to the mistake description, however, it is good over and over again for surprises... Previous owner ride this bike around 20 hr. in 4 years , Mostly parking . Start at first kick ,Quiet engine , Engine oil which fill from factory still look nice.(never change the engine oil) . First i just do the oil change , brake fluid change and go for a short quick ride which is no problem at all. No touching any electrical component. But the next day , About 45 minutes of continuous ride , I noticed the problem then I just keep riding it everyday for 3 weeks to repeat the problem . Yes , It can not HotStart . I 'm also check the all sensor resistance . All resistance were in spec. The tank ventilation is OK . I changed new fuel cap , rubber seal and new hose . No pressure build up in the tank during ride. thanks. Edited February 3, 2016 by menglovekai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menglovekai Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 BAS remove . Problem still there. T_T First 30 mins of ride. I try engine's stop and start severals times . easy to hotstart. about 45 mins of ride.Here come the problem. I have to wait 5-10 mins after that the engine start at first kick . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsawyer Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 You mentioned turning the idle screw out 1/8 turn, but did you measure the RPM with an electronic tachometer? Setting to the upper end of the recommended range (closer to 1900 RPM) may help if it's not already there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmxi Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Have you tried just a little bit of throttle when starting hot? Edited February 4, 2016 by cmxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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