heavywrecker Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Is there any difference between how ACU and AMCA trials mark Non-stop trials. I have read the non-stop rules of a AMCA club and they differ from the ACU's TSR22B definition. Without going into too much detail it more or less says a stop of more than 3 seconds is one mark lost. Footing once whilst stopped 2. My interpretation of TSR22B is if you stop, it's a five. So which is right, or are they different?? Cheers Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Hadn't spotted that but there is a difference in when a bike is deemed to be out of a section with the AMCA being very poorly defined in comparison. Edited February 18, 2016 by 2stroke4stroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Different organisations and different rules -neither right or wrong just different I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavywrecker Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Maybe not well posted. If I mark myself 'strictly' i.e. ACU style in an AMCA trial I lose out to other riders scoring using their AMCA correct system. NOBODY TELLS YOU THIS STUFF !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabie Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 a quick look here (PDF - AMCA website); causes me to highlight a few; * The machine may also move back slightly as the rider regains momentum. * No penalty for TOUCHING tape or Section Cards * NOTE! Clubs may adopt their own marking rules, any changes should be stated on the entry sheet or the signing on sheets * A machine will be deemed to be in the section when the front wheel has passed the Section Begins card and marks will be awarded until the back wheel has passed the Section Ends card. * 13 to 15 year olds - Maximum 250cc but that said, having read it a few times, i would say that it is "stop permitted" rules (TSR22A in ACU speak) as i can't see a rule saying "ceasing forward motion is a failure" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavywrecker Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Thanks Rabie, good link & clears up my confusion. In the instance I referred to in my OP the club in question has, as is allowed by AMCA, it's own rules... mmm Just goes to show it's MY responsibility to check eh? Cheers Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 acu is front spindle front spindle not front and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laird387 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 acu is front spindle front spindle not front and back. Hi And sensible section plotters NEVER put the ends cards just at the top of a climb, or other hazard, but well clear so that there is never the risk of an argumentative type throwing his bike towards the ends then claiming the front spindle was out. In the early Sammy Miller series that turned the tide and gained floods of riders who suddenly felt they were riding against FAIR rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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