yamanx Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) I use 60;1 on my Cota 247 of fully synthetic race oil (The main reason is I was sponsored by Silkolene when I was road racing, and I have loads of it left! ) I also add about a cap full, for two thirds of a tank , as I only usually fill the tank to two thirds each time, of R40, I only do this for the smell really but it probably changes the mix to about 50:1. I dont always do this, just now and again as the Silkolene race oil smells pretty good anyway and reminds me of my TZ racing days! ETA: The R40 sinks to the bottom of the tank as well, maybe its something modern R40 does, because I dont remember it doing this years ago, so shake the tank up good and proper or it gums up the carb when you turn the petrol on practically neat R40 is the first bit of fuel, particularly if you're on reserve. Although R40 is not really for two strokes anyway, just smell gorgeous! Edited March 20, 2016 by yamanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pschrauber Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Running 66.67:1 in all bikes which is equal to 75ml of oil to 5.00l of gasoline. Do this for mono's and twinshock bikes from 1979 up to 1988, aircooled and water cooled engines no problems so far. No special oil beside ones with low flammpoint. For gasoline only gas without any ethanol, like ARAL Ultimate or likewise. Edited April 1, 2016 by pschrauber 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted April 3, 2016 Report Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pv-91954-silkolene-classic-2t-premix-sae-40-synthetic-ester-2-stroke-and-rotary-engine-oil-5-litres.aspx?gclid=CLDqlpGp88sCFfAy0wodClAIBA See above. In 1978 Montesa were advising 24:1, by early 1980s they had changed this to 32:1. Silkoline advises using manufacturers ratios so I would stick with that. Modern synthetic oils for watercooled engines are not ideal for older air cooled engines. To return to your original question. I have used Power 1 (TTS) for extended periods at 33:1 and found it to be excellent. Clean running and so little wear or deposits they may as well be zero. I have friends use A747 at 40:1 for mx and 50:1 for trials, some deposits but minimal wear and reduced engine noise suggesting good film strength and lubrication. Both the Castrol comments refer to watercooled engines. Edited April 3, 2016 by dadof2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggar Posted April 5, 2016 Report Share Posted April 5, 2016 65:1 in all my Fantics - Castrol XR77 for years. No problems, quiet engines not much smoke and clean pipes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still trying Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 I've always mixed 75ml to 5lt petrol for all my bikes. Ty175 being the first, then Fantics (150,200,201,241,KT250, Aprillia climber, Gas Gas 320), and have had no problems even in 30 deg heat and no wind. Basically my rule has always been use the best oil you can get (don't be cheap it doesn't work long term). For trials mineral or semi synthetic was recomended to me considering the motors can run hot but aren't heavily loaded for long at any time. Also the synthetics have a greater ability to accumulate at low speeds and cause rough running. I would tend to go with the oil manufacturers recomendation over the motor manufacturer for an old (80's, 70's etc) motor as oil technology has moved on several light years since then. Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakennstirred Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) I have run the Beamish on Putoline TT Trial pro at 50:1 with shell V power today. bike ran great. Good clean throttle response and the fuel/oil mix feels about right, the fuel/air was just about spot on also Edited September 1, 2016 by shakennstirred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 03/04/2016 at 9:41 PM, dadof2 said: Modern synthetic oils for watercooled engines are not ideal for older air cooled engines. Why's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bashplate Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 (edited) I been running a ty175 with a tight rebore at 60:1 silko/fuchs fully synth with no probs at all. Edited May 2, 2017 by bashplate bad spell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbofurball Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, bashplate said: I been running a ty175 with a tight rebore at 60:1 silko/fuchs fully synth with no probs at all. How longs that been for? My TY is quite worn, and I was running it at 50:1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki250 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 I wouldn't run any leaner than 40:1 on an air cooled, not only does it lube it also aids cooling! Why would less oil ever be better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki250 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 On 20/03/2016 at 7:34 PM, yamanx said: I use 60;1 on my Cota 247 of fully synthetic race oil (The main reason is I was sponsored by Silkolene when I was road racing, and I have loads of it left! ) I also add about a cap full, for two thirds of a tank , as I only usually fill the tank to two thirds each time, of R40, I only do this for the smell really but it probably changes the mix to about 50:1. I dont always do this, just now and again as the Silkolene race oil smells pretty good anyway and reminds me of my TZ racing days! ETA: The R40 sinks to the bottom of the tank as well, maybe its something modern R40 does, because I dont remember it doing this years ago, so shake the tank up good and proper or it gums up the carb when you turn the petrol on practically neat R40 is the first bit of fuel, particularly if you're on reserve. Although R40 is not really for two strokes anyway, just smell gorgeous! R40 mixed with fully synthetic, good luck with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbofurball Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, suzuki250 said: Why would less oil ever be better! Because it'll bung up the exhaust, smoke like a steam train, and reduce performance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, oni nou said: Back in the the day I used to run Belray MC-1 at 50:1 in a Yamaha TY175 and add a few cc's of Brut 33 ...there is nothing better for the ego than being chased round the course by a group of very attractive young ladies........although I must say that my scores did suffer due to poor concentration as a result. Brut 33:1 ....I'll get my coat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki250 Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 5 hours ago, turbofurball said: Because it'll bung up the exhaust, smoke like a steam train, and reduce performance? Never had a smoke problem on 40:1 and beats a new big end and rebore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbofurball Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 1 hour ago, suzuki250 said: Never had a smoke problem on 40:1 and beats a new big end and rebore Maybe Suzukis just use more oil then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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