caddy4u Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Not wishing to appear insensitive at all, but i used to send my PTB back to MSport to get my maps changed! Does anyone know another option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Buy a twinshock, no maps to bother about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Buy a twinshock, no maps to bother about insensitive as well as unhelpful. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Someone needs a sense of humour implant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 not a subject for jest 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishtwinspring Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Dadof not only are you a luddite,your also an idiot. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Not wishing to appear insensitive at all, but i used to send my PTB back to MSport to get my maps changed! Does anyone know another option? With total respect to a much missed Munch I have in the past happily changed maps for local riders/friends at no cost as it takes about 20 mins to swap maps. If you want something special then that's a different matter. I know other dealers offer to remap PTBs if you cant find a local friendly Mont fan who could help you out for the cost of a pint. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 No need for insults. I made my initial post with a couple of fellow trials riders looking over my shoulder, they thought it was pretty funny. Part of the joke we were sharing was having to send an EFI part away for adjustment, so much for EFI needing less attention than a carb. Both these riders share my views on EFI, fine on their cars but they don't want it on their trials bikes, one owns a GG the other a Beta. Cornishtwinspring calling me a luddite, coming from a twinshock owner / rider that takes the biscuit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.e.lucas Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Not wishing to appear insensitive at all, but i used to send my PTB back to MSport to get my maps changed! Does anyone know another option? You can get the cables and cd from a few places. There are plenty of maps on the internet but changing settings is easy also. The cables plug into the fuel pump plug, the red plug in the boot, and connect to a car battery and a computer. Simple to do and takes no time at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneh Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) No need for insults. I made my initial post with a couple of fellow trials riders looking over my shoulder, they thought it was pretty funny. Part of the joke we were sharing was having to send an EFI part away for adjustment, so much for EFI needing less attention than a carb. Both these riders share my views on EFI, fine on their cars but they don't want it on their trials bikes, one owns a GG the other a Beta. Cornishtwinspring calling me a luddite, coming from a twinshock owner / rider that takes the biscuit. You only have to usually change a map out of choice and not necessarily as routine maintenance And the more experience in maps usually the better the job And one of the most experienced chaps was munch Sadly this experience has now gone I've spend hours messing with carbs , leaking petrol , running rich/lean Not any more due to Efi Some folk are not computer savvy the same as some don't know about pilot and main jet sizing , float level ect Don't worry I'm guessing you'll be getting electricity round your parts pretty soon Edited March 30, 2016 by toneh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddy4u Posted March 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Sorry I should've have clarified, I'm not looking for anything special, I have 2 softer maps on at the moment for the wet season and am looking to get one replaced for a full power map if anyone can help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddy4u Posted March 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 You can get the cables and cd from a few places. There are plenty of maps on the internet but changing settings is easy also. The cables plug into the fuel pump plug, the red plug in the boot, and connect to a car battery and a computer. Simple to do and takes no time at all. Thanks, you're always pretty helpful on my posts! Do you know where I could get the leads and cd from please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 No need for insults. I made my initial post with a couple of fellow trials riders looking over my shoulder, they thought it was pretty funny. Part of the joke we were sharing was having to send an EFI part away for adjustment, so much for EFI needing less attention than a carb. Both these riders share my views on EFI, fine on their cars but they don't want it on their trials bikes, one owns a GG the other a Beta. Cornishtwinspring calling me a luddite, coming from a twinshock owner / rider that takes the biscuit. You don't have to send a EFI body away, quick clean every 12 months job done. Not cleaning carb every few weeks. So is much easier. If you want to tweak you can but its not compulsory How many people can jet a carb to suit what they want, How many people swap carbs? With a PTB anybody can tweak the bike to suit how they want it to ride so you are missing a big point. Just down load a map and see if you like it. Worse case you pay to acquire the software and leads or you pay a nominal fee for somebody to swap maps. Best Best case your buddy does it for nowt PS The loss of a true gent who had trials at his heart is not a subject to joke over what ever the inaccurate technical point you are trying to get across. Bit like your entry fee post seems the general consensus seems to be get out and smell the coffee cos your talking from a point of weakness//ignorance (cant decide best description) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.e.lucas Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Thanks, you're always pretty helpful on my posts! Do you know where I could get the leads and cd from please? I know Future and Mitani both have them but not sure about who in the UK does. I bought the cd from Future. They came with my bike but lost mine Here's one someone made on thumertalk: http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1071987-10-pgm-fi-hrc-tuner-tool/ Edited March 31, 2016 by s.e.lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 You don't have to send a EFI body away, quick clean every 12 months job done. Not cleaning carb every few weeks. So is much easier. If you want to tweak you can but its not compulsory How many people can jet a carb to suit what they want, How many people swap carbs? With a PTB anybody can tweak the bike to suit how they want it to ride so you are missing a big point. Just down load a map and see if you like it. Worse case you pay to acquire the software and leads or you pay a nominal fee for somebody to swap maps. Best Best case your buddy does it for nowt PS The loss of a true gent who had trials at his heart is not a subject to joke over what ever the inaccurate technical point you are trying to get across. Bit like your entry fee post seems the general consensus seems to be get out and smell the coffee cos your talking from a point of weakness//ignorance (cant decide best description) I have 6 vehicles with EFI and somewhat more than that motorcycles or plant with carburettors so I am in quite a good position to comment on their relative merits. I also have diagnostics equipment such as scanners, Oscilloscope and injector test equipment for EFI. The main problem with carbs is lack of knowledge of those attempting to work on them. I have a 1997 motorcycle and apart from a balance after running in the carbs have never been touched, I have a 1978 Honda, the carb has been stripped once. On my trials bikes I hardly ever strip the carbs and by hardly ever I mean never or several year intervals. Regarding entry fees - I will post again on that topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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