Noisy Ossa Factory 300 What Parts Should I Get Coming?

[bigmark1972]

My green baby is sick and has a lot of bearing noise.

 

I believe the top end is fine the bike has a ton of power 
and not a ton of time on it. 

 

Assuming it's only the lower bearings can anyone help me out and tell 
me what parts are needed to swap out the crank bearings?

 

Anything else I should do / buy when in there?

Best place for parts? LewisSport is out they are at SSDT for 2 wks.

 

Input appreciated.

 

 

[tsiklonaut]

You sure those are top end bearings? Might be something else too if your bike hasn't got much hours on it. My 280i is nearing 300 hours and while running the 2013 very high compression head (even higher than the red "Racing" head mod) no top end bearing replacements done, it's got a lot of abuse but still the heart of it going strong, running GRO Gear Extreme 75W oil, replacing every 20 hours or so.

 

Haven't done this but looking at the manual you need a rather shallow type of a bearing puller.

 

For parts you can try European OSSA dealers, a good bet is Joa International or someone from UK (but they probably are at the SSDT too I reckon).

[canada280i]

Let's hear the noise so we can give a better opinion. Guessing will not solve the problem

[bigmark1972]

I could post a video of the noise tomorrow but have run several trials

with it and almost everyone agrees it sounds like lower bearings.

 

Checkers commenting saying they could hear me coming. 

 

I put a dial indicator on the flywheel and have .008" in and out play

and .010" lateral play (when considering both opposite directions)I am pretty sure that is not good.

 

Here is some video what say you?

 

https://youtu.be/tBKdjVgtZb8

https://youtu.be/WAW-90MxvdE

 

First video was in and out, second was lateral, could have gotten more if I pried

harder but did not want to damage the flange in the case.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2016 by bigmark1972

[tsiklonaut]

Yup, sounds like the big ends to me now too. The magneto has apparently too much play(?) When you open up the case you should see how are the conditions of different bearings by observing them or rotating them with your fingers - a rough or loose fiddly movement means a bolloxed bearing.

 

Good luck on replacing 'em, let us know how hard job is it. Most of us have to go through this one day anyways I reckon.

Edited May 3, 2016 by tsiklonaut

[zippy]

Found this for the 2011, not sure if everything is the same on yours.

http://lewisportusa.com/manuals/ossa/ossa_manual_parts.pdf

 

 

Page 20 shows the crank case.  It looks like it is one unit, does not split.

 

 

[canada280i]

Yes, forget about posting the sound now we have seen the visual evidence. I concur with tsiklonauts expert analysis.......bolloxed!

[bigmark1972]

Tnx Zippy, I found the 2013 version. Now what parts to get coming? 

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B72LKAZyPz2hUnE3aGNrN3BpQ0E/view?usp=sharing

 

 

I hope I can still get the parts I will need. 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2016 by bigmark1972

[canada280i]

Unless you have a termignoni the bracket is welded to the aluminum exhaust and I don't think is available separately, can't you just get it welded?

[bigmark1972]

I do have Termignoni but have already had it tig welded so am all set.

That explains why I could not find a part number.

 

-Mark

[lotus54]

The manual shows some special,tools to remove the crank.

[canada280i]

I would imagine that it would not be too hard to have a new bracket bent if you have access to a press

[canada280i]

I would imagine that it would not be too hard to have a new bracket bent if you have access to a press

[peterb]

The later Ossa's have a very tight interference fit for the RHS bearing to crank case housing. It took me 22 hours to strip out a crank shaft and replace the RHS bearing then re-fit everything, probably the longest time I have ever taken to replace a crank bearing, longer than a Tiger 100 rebuild even. Remember to remove the RHS bearing locating pin (allen head) first.

You can make a puller to extract the crankshaft from the casing, quite simply from a flat bar 20mm x 40mm that spans the LHS mag housing using some pieces of hardwood to prevent damage to the housing from the puller. Drill and thread the centre for an extraction bolt. (Hi tensile)

I used a hot air gun set to max to heat the RHS bearing housing with a lot of tension on the puller, when the shaft and bearing let go about 1mm with a mighty crack, it is really tight there. Massive heat and tension finally got the crankshaft out.

You need a good bearing puller to withdraw the clutch drive gear from the RHS of the crankshaft, it's fine to re-use 2-3 times without losing too much interference.

The RHS bearing has an integral VITON seal, same as per GG Pro, except the outer casing of the bearing has a slot milled in to locate the locating screw.

Replace the RHS bearing and gear and re-assemble.

Have the crankcase baking in the oven at approx 110C for an hour or so, keep the crankshaft in the freezer overnight. Use welding gloves to fit the two together without force.

You should use a permanent marker to mark the position of the locating pin in the housing on the inside of the crankcase, and on the bearing, and on the flywheel, so you can use the mark as a guide as you slide the now loose fitting crankshaft into position, make sure you have got the right position by inserting the locating pin, I think I used a torch to see if the hole lined up with the slot.

Good luck.

Bye, Peter B.

[jsp]

sounds like mines doing the same thing, a bit nosy and

a bit of play in the flywheel, I can see this being a dear do