michael_t Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) I think by the time you built your frame and bought all the parts like brakes, forks, shocks, tank, plastics ... you would find things really added up, the gearing and clutch would not be ideal and your resale would be very low - but maybe a fun project none the less ? Edited January 21, 2019 by michael_t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbofurball Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, michael_t said: I think by the time you built your frame and bought all the parts like brakes, forks, shocks, tank, plastics ... you would find things really added up, the gearing and clutch would not be ideal and your resale would be very low - but maybe a fun project none the less ? Like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisCH Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, sectionone said: If someone wanted to make their own bike they could buy a Chinese crate engine, build frame and source other parts. There's even a 2 stroke option with electric start with counterbalancer. Engines would probably cost half or less if bought from the source. The horizontal pit bike engines would have a lot of low end grunt. The Chinese even make a KTM 105cc 2 stroke clone engine which would be very light and good for trials if tuned correctly. I think most people in Europe would want a European engine though. Otherwise just buy the ready made Chinese bike. There is real consumer resistance to Chinese stuff (as we can see on the thread). I was thinking originally about a UK brand like AJS or Matchless that could be a real marketing tool. If I am honest I have no idea if there would be a market for such a bike - the Triumph bikes are mass market road bikes and the new Norton (I want one...) is a top end machine for rich people but again a road bike. Trials is more about competence than branding and the top riders already are brand ambassadors. You might just get Rotax powered bikes seen as "British" but not a Chinese engined one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oni nou Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) On 1/9/2019 at 10:25 AM, ChrisCH said: On 1/9/2019 at 10:25 AM, ChrisCH said: I think it would be possible to revive a UK brand, but clearly developing a new engine is not cost effective. The obvious thing is to buy in an engine The obvious one being Rotax as they are one of the few manufacturers that sell just engines. I have no idea if the Rotax is suitable for this application? They are sold for go-karts and I would think therefore have a different power delivery to that which a trials bike needs. You may like to check out SWM trials motorcycles around 1977and the Armstrong or Aprilia trials bikes or the Scorpa 294/ 295 works trials bike and the Scorpa Easy model trials bikes made in the 90's. Edited January 21, 2019 by oni nou 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Anything is possible but as stated above costs to get to production are too great, anything other than a purpose made engine wouldnt do, regardless of if it sells enough, which it wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breagh Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Purpose made I consider my Yamaha TTr generator engine fitted in the Scorpa far superior to any current disposable offering. Pity it only gives you about 10 inches of clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauls320 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Its gotten awfully quite..How are the new owners enjoying the tenaciwongs, all smiles still, any problems? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy53 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I they live like us in Canada, they are probably looking outside and swearing ! Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 i think the first problem they had was noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_t Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Actually that was the first internet rumor they had to deal with... which they did by posting a noise test on facebook showing the current version is quieter than a GG at idle and half throttle. It has been super cold the last few weeks but they will be bringing a demo down for the motorcycle show here in Nova Scotia the first weekend in March (indoor). Looking forward to seeing one in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 if you listen to what they say they have carried out work to quieten it down, they said. NOT a rumour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) It's hardly a rumour - you only have to listen to the videos to hear the hideous racket (compared to other four strokes on video) . "Locals" don't care about meter readings, just what they can hear. Edited February 9, 2019 by 2stroke4stroke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_t Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Just great that they were able to address it so quickly... nice thing about working with a small company eager to please their customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Surely an enthusiastic importer should not have to be bodging up the exhaust on a machine produced in 2018 by one of the world's biggest manufacturing nations? While that test was not carried out to the FIM standard it doesn't lead me to think that the bike would pass such a test, which involves full throttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ric h Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 The first TWC200 has arrived in the UK and owned by Mr Dan Clark.Congrats Dan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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