iconic558 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Just been out for a quick pootle about in my woods...very lucky in the that respect. Been practicing very slow/stopping/start tight turns and when (it's never 'if' with me ) we go off balance, its always the inside foot that goes down. I've even tried to force myself to over balance on outside foot but my head just can't do it. ....I know the bike wants to fall 'into' the inside due to the physics, but then I should be allowing for this with my balance, but, I never over balance to the outside. Edited November 5, 2016 by iconic558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Well on the plus side, that is the correct side to dab. Usually it`s all mental, you are giving up before the turn. Safety dab every time. Good luck on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Put more weight on the outside footrest and lean the bike in more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on it Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 you could find that you are dropping your inner shoulder in on the turn, no matter how much you weight the outer foot rest you will still drop in and thus dab . Might help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Actually if you could have someone film you doing turns, it might just reveal what you are doing wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggie Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I try to point my toes out slightly ( bowlegged ) and this helps keep your knee on the outside of the turn away from the bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b40rt Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Could be the bikes geometry, as the bar's rotate the bike drops into the turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Some great points there guys. Been watching some vids this afternoon.....theres a lot of guys with their feet on the very outside of the outside footpeg and rolling there ankle out too......theres a LOT more to these turns than meets the eye! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Proper body English is the most important part of turns. It does not matter what bike, it is the same regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 do left and right tight turns , fogures of 8 on tarmac and lean bike in and body out an hour or two should sort this. My guess is you are not leaning the bike enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Yup, not enough lean and not enough pokey out knees....put in some practice today but bad habits are a pain to unlearn. I wish I'd taken some proper tuition when I started trials. Thanks for the help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 In turns it is always better to over exaggerate every move than not enough. Good luck with creating correct muscle memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 try dabbing deliberately on outside to, that should "centre" your weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Try practising this for a few minutes before going out on the bike to practice slow tight turns and you will probably find them an absolute doddle after the guitar work .Regards. No good for me sir as I play bass....I'll slap a few Mark Adams choons out and then jump on Speedy 'n see if the funk helps. May the funk be with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Try lifting your inside foot of the footrest when practising your turns. This is almost how you need to be with all the weight on the outside footrest and your body and bike balanced. Weight transfer on the footrest is good to practice as can be used to stand the bike up even in a straight line if it starts to slide. I found it easier and more balanced to lift a foot off the inside rather than pushing down on the outside but either works. Try and keep your shoulders parallel to the bars when you turn rather than just lengthening and shortening you arms with elbow movement. If you sty parallel it helps push your weight out on a corner. Good luck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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