iconic558 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) Read last night that the EC series of enduro bikes, that ran thru the noughties were based on the JT/TX/TXT engine....is that true? I had several EC's from 2006 up to 2011 models and all were 100% bullet 'n bomb proof, whilst all around me my friends pumpkins were throwning all manner of rattles out of the pram. My friends used to call my little gasser EC-200's the 'lil woosh woosh....whilst they were changing out parts on their katooms as I looked on smuggly smoking a Marlboro light... Edited November 15, 2016 by iconic558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffsgasgas Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 The Pampera of the 90's and early 00's was more based on the water cooled Hiro trials engine. I think the EC from that era was heavily modified if it was based on the orignal Hiro design. Correct me anyone if i am wrong. We have several other experts.... --Biff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulmie Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) I know the very early ones were TM powered so may have been developed from these power plants around 95/96 Edited November 15, 2016 by hulmie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasgas249uk Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 The first GasGas enduro engine was in 95 and was designed by ex trial rider Bony Geebelen and is based upon a Honda engine. This engine remained virtually unchanged until last week and the new GasGas EC reveal. It remains to the be seen if the "new" GG Ec engine is the old wrapped in new covers. The trial engines bear no similarity to the enduro engines . The trial engine was based upon Miller's Hiro. The design was adopted by Villa. When Villa went bust it was subsequently copied and developed / modded by GasGas. It remained the basic unit until Serra's pro engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_t Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I agree. I had an EC200 and a TXT200 and they had very different power plants. Unlike the fact that my Sherco X-Ride 290 and ST250 have pretty much the same engine. From my experience I would say a trials engine really isn't well suited for a full on racing enduro bike. They however are a lot of fun in a light weight trail bike that can run on the road if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Thanks guys....I thought that maybe the case. Off topic but the EC 200/250/300 series conrods crossover to Honda CR250 so more Honda DNA there. Edited November 16, 2016 by iconic558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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