robbiesty175 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) Was almost ready to buy yet another bike, this time a Fantic 240! But then a very observant Italian friend spotted the frame cut away under the motor. Run away from this bike, or still worth the effort? My thanks for your wisdom! Edited November 17, 2016 by robbiesty175 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggar Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 I don't understand why anyone would do that. I'd leave it alone personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki250 Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Very much depends on the price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantic240motor Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Personally I'd avoid it as you can find a nicer unmolested one easy enough. Removing the bottom rails is normally done to fit an air cooled mono engine as the flywheel side is deeper. Funny why this still having it's original engine. A head steady and a heavy duty sump plate is essential to prevent flexing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axulsuv Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Walk Away !!! , unless it's real cheap ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htrdoug Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 any frame without tubes under the engine needs a cylinder head stay to regain strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamferret Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Plenty of bikes of that era have no bottom frame tubes, Armstrong s and SWM amongst them, cause they were designed that way. I have removed bottom frame from Bantams with no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggar Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 As do the Fantic mono's but they have a very, very strong sump-guard and a cylinder head stay to provide rigidity. The 240 in those photos has neither. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiesty175 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) About $1,000 shipped. Not cheap, at least for me. Patience is a virtue I am working on... And with all the shared wisdom around here, I am starting to get the feeling there are better bikes out there just waiting for me. Plus, I still have my Can-Am 240! And I just thought all the cool kids were missing frame bottoms! Very much depends on the price? Edited November 18, 2016 by robbiesty175 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantic240motor Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Unfortunately 240 frames aren't the strongest and if ridden hard can suffer from cracking around the head stock area combined with the steering geometry splaying resulting in slower steering and a longer wheel base. A good used frame can be bought for around £150 so if the sellers price was right it could still be a good project for someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggar Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 That Can Am is lovely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosinge83 Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) That Fantic's been online for a while along with the 93 Key Roo. No paperwork, chopped tubes, offer less. Then you could afford one of those newly discovered NOS frames. Shame your not in Santa Maria California. Motosinge83 Edited January 3, 2017 by motosinge83 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) About $1,000 shipped. Not cheap, at least for me. Patience is a virtue I am working on... And with all the shared wisdom around here, I am starting to get the feeling there are better bikes out there just waiting for me. Plus, I still have my Can-Am 240! And I just thought all the cool kids were missing frame bottoms! That Can Am is gorgeous! Edited November 18, 2016 by iconic558 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiesty175 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Does the number make any sense? DGM 50453OM Was told it's off the frame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantic240motor Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Does the number make any sense? DGM 50453OM Was told it's off the frame... It is the pressed factory part number, it will also have FANTIC 450 and the circular FM logo above it. The actual individual seven digit frame number is stamped next to it with a star at each end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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