iconic558 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 ....worth doing or too much to do and best buy an old puka trials Enfield instead? Any comments welcome. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bothfeetdown Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 I was tempted with that but based upon Internet surfing only, it looked like a fair bit of work to achieve one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Yes, it seems ya right. Just been chatting with my brit bike mate and it appears the frames aren't suitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexenfield Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Many have been done, Think there were a couple at the thumpers today.There were certainly several with the indian style frame. It depends how far you want to go and how serious a bike you want at the end. To get a ride-able bike lose all the tinware, change the top fork yoke for a trials style one, rebuild a 21 inch front wheel and make front mudguard brackets. Make up a sump shield (the one from hitchcocks is no good for trials.) change petrol tank for your favoured slimline tank, make up seat , make up rear mudguard brackets and make brackets to move footrests to a sensible position. Change the gearing in the engine (both primary and gearbox sprocket and rear sprocket (this involves work as they are cast onto brake drum ! (hitchcocks do a drum modified to take a different sprocket) , Change the ignition to a British mag and remove the advance and retard unit (may mean modding engine casing a bit) and if budget allows change the clutch housing for the earlier slimmer versions with no alternator inside. make up any bits not mentioned and i think you are there. Don't think there is a real problem with the frames (could be wrong) as such as they original 1950's bikes were alwats good in rough conditions and indeed why the Indian army originally choose them in the first place. If you want more serious get a crusdader type frame (they are slimmer and lighter) an early gearbox (slimmer) and go from there with improved fork internals etc). Also use early rear wheel (lighter) and machine front wheel to lighten. My personal Enfield has most of this setup and is very competitive (i am not but the bike can be) (crusader type frame, slim cases and box and rear wheel, std crusader forks with Indian internals, Indian alloy barrell and Indian 5 plate clutch) If you serious about this route get to an EFA (eastern fourstroke association ) trial (mainly in suffolk and north essex) where there are a good half dozen in use and regularly wining events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Thanks that excellent reply. We were at the Thumpers today, my mate and myself observing on section 13 (river section)....lots of Enfields which prompted the question. Hmm got my thinking now. Again, many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexenfield Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) I hated your section, was on the red Enfield, and lost my ONLY mark all day there !!! James WIllaims bike is very standard Indian type parts and he is in with a good chance of being overall winner ! Edited November 27, 2016 by essexenfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexenfield Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 James bike today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) Ahh yes James...that boy can certainly ride! My brit bike loving mate did say that his bike looked very old school. Tough section indeed on the expert route....we were in awe of anyone that got less than a 5! Edited November 27, 2016 by iconic558 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 PS James lost a few on section 13....clean on first lap then dropped a few on second and third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essexenfield Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Lucklly i rode the Easy route toady and your section was OK , Should have added use an earlier 6 inch front brake (later Indians bikes have a 7 inch twin leading show brake. James bike has Indian style hubs, frame,gearbox. so virtually none of teh real trick bits , although i think it has crusader fork lowers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darmst6829 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 https://davidarmstrong.smugmug.com/Enfield-reduction/i-swGCrjk I built one up, it needs a better ignition and a slimmed down primary but I am pleased with how it rides. Hit and miss on parts from India. Just at 300lbs with oil and gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic558 Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 https://davidarmstrong.smugmug.com/Enfield-reduction/i-swGCrjk I built one up, it needs a better ignition and a slimmed down primary but I am pleased with how it rides. Hit and miss on parts from India. Just at 300lbs with oil and gas. Great stuff, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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