dares Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) From the backgound of enduro and loads of oilchanges I thougt that a simple fork oilservice would be a pice of cake, but no! Read some helpful information but not realy a complete explination. So, went for the classic counted the clicks to max, back to fully release pressure at minus and then loosen the cap. (Drained the oil from the lowest bolt first). Did all the refilling and air bleeding but when mounting the cap, with the unusal rod stuck to the cap this drives the rod to bottom?!! Leaving no chance of changing the clicks? Do I have to mount cap/rod at max + so that I later can loosen the compression nut to right set of clicks? And what is the standard set of clicks? The Ossa tr280i manual and service manual mostly refers to: put your feet here, hands here and just go ride... Edited December 6, 2016 by dares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 What bike/forks are we talking about? I can't quite tell what problem you're having, but when you put the fork cap back on, generally you want to first screw the locknut all the way down (as in towards the ground) as far as it will spin by hand. Then put the cap back on as far as it will go by hand. Then spin the locknut back up to where it meets the cap, tighten it down a bit, and you're done. If you're saying the damping rod provides no damping resistance regardless of where the clickers are, then the problem isn't the clickers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dares Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Sorry, its a 2013 Tr280i Clickers work fine! Most forks you loose the pressure on the clicker (is it called clicker??? Screw?) driving it to minus before opening the cap. So when i try mounting the cap again with the setting of the dead minus, there is no more than 1-2 clicks before i hit maximum plus. Is it so that when mounting caps with fixed controll rod it should be at maximum plus clicks? Edited December 6, 2016 by dares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dares Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Problem is in short: When I remount the cap with control rod at minus, I have no play to change 1-2 clicks to plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 You lost me again. But just so you're aware, that bike has Marzocchi's on it, which are closed cartridge forks. So if you drained the cartridge on the compression/rebound side (by removing the screw at the bottom of the fork, or by disassembling the cartridge) and didn't fill and bleed it properly, all this clicker talk is neither here nor there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dares Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Is the 2012 tr280i also with marzocci close cartridge? They dont look like a closed one. Will take som photos tomorrow so we can sort it out. Thanks alot for your help sofar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dares Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Pictures of the inside. Starting to think that the forks have been swapped?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elemetal Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 It does look like someone added some extra holes at the lower tube (sanding marks on some but not all). Only thing I can think to check is that you didn't get the rebound cap/rod on the compression leg; one leg is comp, one is rebound. I found an online fork manual at Marzocci, was in spanish but easy enough to follow. Look for it, it may help (think there was a link from this site/subforum somewhere). The clickers have about 18 clicks if I remember right, shock has about 25; too many bikes with different forks/shocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strengthcoach Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 This helped me https://thehellteam.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/marzochhi-40mm-forks-service-rhs.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dares Posted December 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Found many service guides for the cartridge type forks. But these seems to be fixed at botton. Impossible to open. Not like any of the pictures I hane seen. Then the next question, stick to 160mm air pocket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus54 Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Those look much like the forks from my Explorer. What does the slider look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dares Posted December 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) Cant say more than silver, clear painted. Quite rough molding and machines at the ends. Simple bolt with washer at bottom that has a closed thread hole on the inner mechanics of the suspension. Inner part of suspension has also a o-ring at bottom. The more I read about it, the more it seems that the forks are as you say from an explorer. Found a picture of the Explorer fork to and I think we got the answer to all this confusion!!! Edited December 9, 2016 by dares 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus54 Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Yes- certainly look like Explorer forks. I changed mine to Marzocchi forks- much, much nicer. (Lewisport had a deal on some new ones) I've had mine apart, I don't recall any issue with the clickers. But they didn't do much either. One leg is compression, one is rebound. does it have an Ohlins on the rear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dares Posted December 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) Nice to sort it out. I will have to change the oil amount in them as I did a 160mm air pocket in both. Did see that they wrote the amount in explorer manual. Öhlins yes, think so. With the side position gas chamber? Edited December 9, 2016 by dares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gleiwitz Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 I have the same Explorer forks and since you disassembled it, I wanted to ask if standard dust and oil seal from marzocchi 40 mm fit to it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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