andyrothers Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Understandable really. Guess it would be tough finishing behind his old boss in the over 40 class on his old bike... Edited February 2, 2017 by andyrothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breagh Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 So cruel; Off topic we could be brothers, I've got a Scorpa 163 too. Had it since new frame No 3. Tell me it's the best bike you've ever owned,mine is by a mile. The Ossas only for show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyrothers Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Ha ha. Forgot to add the additional detail 'over 40' to the bit about old boss.... Without a doubt best bike... had it 10 years... love it. We have a 143 also... Will we win prizes for best, most powerful, lightest, most trendy? No... but they're mine, all paid for and make us smile and are infinitely better and more capable than we are... (Andy - we're still coming to Scotland regardless. New cooking gear this year but we'll still be camouflaged so you'll recognise us just by the smell of bacon...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telecat Posted February 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 With regard to Vertigo contesting the SSDT, wasn't it the ambition of the Owner to contest the event on his own bike? Gas Gas don't have that ambition or need to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Correct decision IMO. Dibs is riding the best he ever rode and has realistically only got another 2 or 3 years at the top of his game. Nows the time to fully commit to the WTC. The first round is only a week after the SSDT, a week! It has got to affect his performance in the first round and if a good performance in the 1st round is the difference between a 6th and a 5 th, or a 5th and 4th at the end of the year then it is well worth it. I imagine he would happily trade another ssdt win for even the slightest possibility of a higher ranking at the end of the year. He has lots and lots of other years to compete and win the ssdt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhuskys Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 0:26 PM, heffergm said: I think James is sick of rain and gloom... I'd rather ride in Spain too. Spoken like a true New Englander! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 I wonder how much of the decision is James's and how much is the Gasgas factory. Modern bikes are designed with one day trials / WTC in mind, not 6 days with little maintenance. Sure most bikes will last a week but both the SSDT and the Scott throw up failures that can be can be bad for the factories image. A SSDT or Scott win probably does not influence a rider to buy a particular brand but a well publicised failure of a supported rider on a factory bike is bad publicity. The factories probably see little to gain by competing in the SSDT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 When was the last time a gas gas A team rider had a failure? Dad off Its nothing to do with what youve put but as stated above and also in the comments posted by james that his wtc prep is better served eleswhere. Why in every post do you have to show your ignorance and try to angle it to your own agenda? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 My post has nothing to do with an agenda. Had Dabs never entered the SSDT the question would not have arisen. It is his withdrawal at this stage that is puzzling. He clearly had the intention to ride. My question is still valid - is the decision entirely Dabs or is there significant Gasgas influence? It is clear that all the main WTC teams take the same view - the disbenefits of the SSDT outweigh the benefits. Rather than entering a true A team with all the expense and risks some enter a "B" team. If it does well its good advertising, if mechanical failure puts them out it is much less visible than having a top factory rider drop out. In answer to your first question - Gasgas have probably never had an A team failure at the SSDT because they have never entered a true A team with their top WTC riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 @dadof2@dadof 2 You cannot single out Gas Gas as all manufacturers havnt entered "A" teams, so your point is ridiculous, and you know what exactly I meant and you are simply twisting facts to try and prove some point (you think could be true). FYI dibs (not dabs) signed for gas gas after his entry to SSDT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) @nigel dabsterArguing with an idiot is pointless. It's like playing a pigeon at chess. No matter how good you are it's still going to crap on the board and strut around like it's won. Edited February 4, 2017 by baldilocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 God loves a tryer she told me once or twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadof2 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I did not single out GG, I pointed out that all major WTC teams do not send an A team to the SSDT. The point I was making was that none of the modern bikes are ideal for the SSDT and because of this there is a fair chance over 6 days of riding of a manufacturers efforts being thwarted by what could be called random bad luck. Look at Dougies and Dabs / Dibs problems at fairly recent Scotts for instance, a seize, dirt in carb, 2 battery failures and 2 ignition failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on it Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 dadof 2 the ssdt is not a part of wtc so why would wtc teams be sent ? .As for none of modern bikes are ideal for the ssdt what are you on !!!!?. SO no OLD bike ever seized. got dirt in carb & ignnition failed ? So according to YOU it would be better ride a old bike in preference to a modern light weight bike ? You are saying no modern bike is ideal for the ssdt so why & how do they finish the event ? So what experience of the ssdt do you have & on what bikes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 He is Gasgas no1 rider,they justifiably want him to have his best chance at world level so he needs as much time as possible on WTC type terrain,also acclimatising to the higher temperatures found at most WTC events.SSDT is a very different thing,he can come back to it if he wants when his WTC career ends 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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