99techno Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hi guys, I've got a banjo bolt on the calliper that I can't stop weeping. I've had two go's at it now and it's still weeping, it's only very slight, looks wet around the bolt after a few days, should I leave it? Should I try hard fibre washers instead of copper ? Should I wrap the banjo threads in PTFE? Any ideas would be much appreciated guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 I've never liked the use of banjos on brakes. Best kept for low pressure applications. But if you have to keep it, putting PTFE tape on the threads won't do anything because the thread has nothing to do with the sealing. I don't much fancy fibre washers on brakes either. Have you checked the four surfaces that the two washers bear on? If there are any scratches there, that could be the leak path. Also new copper washers may help, especially if you don't know the provenance of the ol ones. The copper work-hardens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpauls Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Try a joke or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collyolly Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Either get some new copper washers or you can heat your existing ones up to cherry red on a gas hob or with a gas torch to soften them off ( 'anneal' is the technical term for it ) be very careful not to melt them, I have with a gas torch ! As has been said above then make sure the surfaces that are being sealed are clean and flat, no sealant or tape is required just clean surfaces, soft copper washers and nip it up. Edited April 6, 2017 by collyolly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Are you are sure the bolt is not bottoming out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Collyolly omitted to mention that you chuck the red washers in to cold water to complete the annealing process. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collyolly Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Well I always allow them to air cool, Google 'Annealing Copper washers' and make up your own mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I air cool them as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Have you tried listening to the banjo bolt when she speaks. What she says doesn't always mean exactly what she says. She might just want to spend time with you, she wants to be your number 1 priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzuki250 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Didn’t Eric Clapton have the same problem ‘While my banjo gently weeps’ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 On 4/5/2017 at 9:51 PM, oni nou said: All trials bikes hydraulic systems have banjo bolt fittings on them and have since they started fitting them decades ago. Yes, I know they're used but it really is not good engineering. The various suggestions of annealing copper washers seems good, especially if getting some new ones is going to be a lot of trouble (it's not a lot of expense). After heating, the annealing process requires the part to be cooled slowly, so definitely air cooling rather than quenching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan williams Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 18 hours ago, suzuki250 said: Didn’t Eric Clapton have the same problem ‘While my banjo gently weeps’ No but if you get the chance to see Jake Shimabukuro play While My Ukelele Gently Weeps it'll change your perception of what can be done with four strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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