binit Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 I have a 2017 4rt that has only been used handfull of times and is a poor starter and when it starts it coughs and bangs also conpared to my 2016 4rt it feels very easy to kick over has anyone experienced this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binit Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Always started brilliant but this afternoon just dead took plug out looked like no spark disconeccted kill button still dead then just fired up really weird but its dead easy to kick over which i dont no if thats good or bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Usual checks? Is there tension in the throttle cable (can kill spark), try a new spark plug, tick over setting to low, fuel in the tank (not likely but as I have done it I will ask), check connectors to key items like fuel pump or ECU (or hole bike?). Last time I had issues like this it was the connector for the fuel pump under the tank. It was just barely unplugged and caused much the same problem... Hope your able to sort it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragvale Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Just about to try one tomorrow, I thought they were great starters have I been misinformed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collyolly Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 When you say very easy, do you mean as if there is no compression ? Take out the plug, put your finger in the plug hole and gently turn the engine over on the kickstart, mind you don't touch the spark plug. Does it feel like it is pumping air out past your finger or is the engine not doing anything ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 1 hour ago, cragvale said: Just about to try one tomorrow, I thought they were great starters have I been misinformed! In my experience there build quality in general is fantastic. My 07 is bullet prof and everyone I know with new 2014 to 2017's have no issues. FYI: I know about 6 people with new ones. The trick is that when you have issues they can be a bit tricky in comparison to older carb bikes. However on that note, once you know the tricks/things to look for most things can be sorted quick as long as the parts haven't failed. If they do fail its a bit more $ to fix... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binit Posted April 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Yes as if no compression just compared to my 16 if feels so much easyier to. Kick over i know they have changed. Few things i have had about 8 4rt never one issue but this was strange i went to start it again last night left it about 4 hours and first kick she fired up and reved clean and hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 8 hours ago, cragvale said: Just about to try one tomorrow, I thought they were great starters have I been misinformed! They are Mine is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishtwinspring Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 The 17s have a longer kickstarter than the 16s, could be why it feels easier to swing over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxstbi Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Just a suggestion for something to try because you said the bikes does start some of the time. When it's running adjust your idle to make sure it's at least 1,900 RPM, a little faster is ok. If you don't have a tach just set the idle faster by ear. Then try starting it again. I messed with my idle setting after the bike started breaking in and got it too low and it was very hard to start. I turned the idle screw back to the setting (I had marked the position of the screw slot) it was in before I slowed it down and it fired up right away. As mentioned above, if you adjust the throttle cable too tight it will act like you have the throttle partly open and it won't start. I've learned the hard way on my '17 :). With everything set properly it starts easy and reliably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalshell Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 all honda 4t like plenty of idle screw to get started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz thumper Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 Whilst unlikely don't forget that tight valve clearance will also definitely affect ease of starting. It is generally preferable to set the valve clearance at the upper end of the book limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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