mich lin Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 There has been a question if 250cc four strokes should be allowed to compete agaisnt 125cc two strokes in a US 125 Trials Championship? Similar to what we see in American Moto-cross competition where 250cc 4 strokes can compete in the 125 moto cross class! I suppose that the FIM has to be consulted on that question! Can a 250cc four stroke trials bike compete in the 125cc world trials championship? If they can then it only makes sense that in a US 125cc championship that we also allow bigger four strokes in the contest the championship. If it's not allowed by the FIM then we need to follow their lead and conform with international standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechitlins Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 It doesn't seem to me that the 4-stroke has the same kind of disadvantage in trials as it does in MX. With 4-stroke technology being what it is, a 250 4T could have a big advantage over a 125 2T, and the quality of the sections could really highlight the advantage. This kind of stuff has been tested by time, though...ever since the British OHV 500s were allowed to compete in class C with the American 750cc sidevalves in the 1940s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munch Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 this is a joke right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjwhite Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 i agree with allowing bigger 4strokes ride with small 2 strokes, but i think that 250 to 125 is a bit extreem. i definately think that they should let the 175 scorpa into the 125 class, its only sensible. anybody who can get more power out of a 175 4 stroke than there is in a 125 2stroke is going to win the trial anyway. and in the world rounds they should limit the 2 strokes to 250 and let them have any size four stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamayfrank Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 I am not sure that trials displacement and MX displacement can be compared directly but: When is the last time anyone has seen a 125cc two stroke even entered in the 125 class in a US MX or SX National much less competitive? Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich lin Posted November 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I was simply wondering IF the FIM even allows bigger 4T bikes into the 125cc world championship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonsurge Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I was simply wondering IF the FIM even allows bigger 4T bikes into the 125cc world championship? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> C'mon guys, this stuff ain't difficult: A quick hop over to the FIM web site and scan through the trial technical regulations (specifically section 01.05) will reveal that classes are exclusively capacity-based, regardless of engine type. Seems pretty clear-cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich lin Posted November 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Cheers mate, No big four strokes then Ah! Sorry for the confusion but we're Yanks and have had trouble with the rules going all the way back to 1776. Our AMA, the ACU of the USA allows big four strokes into motocross, so it's understandable that some of us would expect big 4 strokes in 125cc trials. No 250cc 4 strokes allowed in world competition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringo Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Sorry for the confusion but we're Yanks and have had trouble with the rules going all the way back to 1776. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's all fine and good to sit around and watch the beaver come up with some off the wall, insane and uncredible statement to rouse the board. Afterall, without him, this board sits idle as no one will say anything at all. Pure entertainment value from someone who's, at least, married to someone who knows how to entertain. BUT, I have to jump in and put the reins on the ole boy when he miss types like he did in the quote. Let me fix it for you buddy, "Sorry for the confusion but I'm a Yank and I have had trouble with the rules going all the way back to 1776" See there, now we can confine the neorosis [sp?] to him so that we can sit back and laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich lin Posted December 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Ringo, the reason we don't go to the world round together is because they would have to toss both of us out. Don't worry, I've got our press passes all ready for this years event! Now, do you do the pictures and I do the story or the other way around? Beave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringo Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Now, do you do the pictures and I do the story or the other way around? Beave <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You do Citytrials and reach around and everyone will be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich lin Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Ringo, it looks like we have to ride as the only Americans in the World Championship this year and also do the story for everyone. Are you riding 4T or 2T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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