nigel dabster Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 7 hours ago, baldilocks said: I think people need to stop thinking that making trials look like F1 is a good idea. Yes the car park is impressive but if the rules are a joke and the sections are all man made then surely the main objective hasn't been achieved. I.e find out who the best outdoor trials rider is...Yes obviously right now it's Toni Bou but the trials test what Toni is good at. World outdoor trials should include all types of terrain over a season. Currently as long as the car parks good and the venue has WiFi nobody is a***d about the sections. There must be some middle ground BUT the fact that Bou trains on man made sections in Naturalandia (andorra) when there is some fantastic natural sections all around there within 5 mins says it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 From a practice point of view that makes sense, you can construct a section to practice a particular technique. But world trials should be testing the rider ability across a broad range of technique and terrain ? Last year at Tong Bou was very impressive the in the mud section I watched on the opening lap but a few others just couldn't ride it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 On 8 July 2017 at 6:52 AM, nigel dabster said: I went to tong once and i probably wont go back,free or not. But there must be some visionary authority (like Bangor) or a more suitable venue somewhere...... Hmmm I went yesterday for the first time and concur with you Some great riders - especially on 125's Venue - not great for me and I much prefer Reeth or Clachaig and that is a proper trial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboxer Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 On 8 July 2017 at 9:02 AM, baldilocks said: From a practice point of view that makes sense, you can construct a section to practice a particular technique. But world trials should be testing the rider ability across a broad range of technique and terrain ? Last year at Tong Bou was very impressive the in the mud section I watched on the opening lap but a few others just couldn't ride it at all. Watched him yesterday on S13 lap 2 - a real snotty mud section an Bou fived at the mud bank, a real natural bit of the whole section, where as Fujigas got through the section for 1 (but Dibs/cabestany/busto did 5 it) and I think Gubian cleaned it Watching Bou, he was awesome on the man made stuff, but looked average on the ordinary stuff I wish he'd go to Reeth in October on a rainy day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normy Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Nice to see the top boys in action. Free entry so had to go really. 125's were great to watch some cracking little riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldilocks Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 Another issue with the no stop rules struck me watching the trial. For some of the big steps preceded by a tight turn it obviously takes time to go from low rpm to even 3 /4000 rpm. While this takes place the rider can't really creep forward or they would be too close. Worse perhaps for 4t motors. Still enjoyed the day but the rules need to reflect what's actually observed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennie Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 I went and took my little lad along we enjoyed it I must admit I would have preferred to see more mud as to me uk trials = Mud, world round should have terrain that matches the country its held in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted July 11, 2017 Report Share Posted July 11, 2017 12 hours ago, baldilocks said: Another issue with the no stop rules struck me watching the trial. For some of the big steps preceded by a tight turn it obviously takes time to go from low rpm to even 3 /4000 rpm. While this takes place the rider can't really creep forward or they would be too close. Worse perhaps for 4t motors. Still enjoyed the day but the rules need to reflect what's actually observed. Or the section design needs to reflect the rules which can then be applied properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 On 11/07/2017 at 7:38 PM, neils on wheels said: Or the section design needs to reflect the rules which can then be applied properly. Thats jordi pasquet's job isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neils on wheels Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 On 15/07/2017 at 6:48 AM, nigel dabster said: Thats jordi pasquet's job isnt it? I believe so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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