klonheadd Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) Hi guys, I was wondering how often do you change synthetic oil on the beta 4t engines? I am using Ipone fully synthetic oil in my bike. Manual states to change after 20hrs. Previous owner of my bike was advising changing oil after just 2 trials which seems to be v. often. I have seen one ad for 4t and owner was stating he was changing oil after 3 rides and filter every 6 rides. What is your experience with this subject? At first I thought maybe 15hrs is good interval but now I more inclined to change that to every 10hrs. Thanks! Edited August 19, 2017 by klonheadd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gu9cci Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I do every 3 rides including filter it is inexpensive healthy insurance for my bike. If people start cry about cost of oil change I don't think they can afford the moto in first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Less than a quart is cheap. 3 oil changes and the 4th becomes free. (750cc) The Beta filters are expensive, but I buy them by the bulk. I think they are the same as an RMZ 250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlos Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Every 3rd or 4th ride for oil, 6th ride for the filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klonheadd Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Thanks for all answers guys. Any other beta 4t owners please feel free to share your oil change interval time for statisics . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I would be interested to know why the frequent-oil-changers think they know better than the manufacturer. (Sorry, it sounds a bit aggressive, which isn't the intention. I'm just curious.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 At 20 hrs that would be about 15 changes a year. We probably go 30 hours, or every 45 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlos Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 I find the oil gets dirty quickly. If i abuse the clutch the oil turns dark after only a few rides. I don't want that dirty oil running thru an engine i want to keep for a long while. Just recently tried Rotella T 15wt-40. Worked just fine. Cheap as dirt. Subaru owners prefer it for there turbo engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzralphy Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 Do what the manual suggests. 20hr is fine and if you are using fully synth oil (which will last wayyyyyyyyy longer) and changing it earlier then you may as well take your money and flust it down the toilet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klonheadd Posted August 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) If it comes to oil changing color to darker, I reckon it's a normal function of oil mixing with carbon deposits. Not heavy clutch use. I heard many times that when oil turns black it doesn't mean it's used up. I am using also fully synth 10w50 in my ktm 990 and it goes black from fresh very quickly but still i am using it for recommended interval (7500km for 3.8l of oil capacity in 990). I personally would like to keep Beta 4t interval bit shorter than manual is stating but not as often as 2,3 rides since it's a synthethic oil. This is an excerpt from valvoline website: http://www.valvolineeurope.com/english/products/engine_oils?CID=2269&cp=cp1. Myth: You can tell the condition of an oil by its look, smell and color. If it turns dark or goes black quickly, it’s not good. Fact: Nothing could be further from the truth. If an oil is doing its job cleaning the engine, then it will be dirty when it is drained. In the case of diesel engines, the oil may look dirty within a few hours of operation. This indicates that the motor oil is keeping soot, dirt and other combustion contaminants in suspension. These will then be carried to the filter or removed from the crankcase when the oil and filter are changed. Good quality motor oils are formulated to hold these contaminants in suspension until the oil is drained when the oil and filter are changed. Edited August 26, 2017 by klonheadd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timp Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Changing oil every 2 or 3 trials is excessive and a waste of oil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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