heffergm Posted September 23, 2017 Report Share Posted September 23, 2017 They've been like that for at least a year if not more judging from the betas I've noticed recently. Guess they decided to lengthen it and not bother changing the pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsteve Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 anyone got the 2018 ? is it better than the 2017 or the same ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadwood Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 30/09/2017 at 7:47 PM, scottishsteve said: anyone got the 2018 ? is it better than the 2017 or the same ? got a 2018 250 awesome bike ,had a 2017 factory , seems as good as that , love it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymo73 Posted October 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 Bike looks a lot better in the flesh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus54 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 I see on the Beta website they say the 2018 has ‘larger oil pump for decreased engine brakeing’. hmmm- I seem to have trouble imagining how a larger oil pump descreases engine braking? Does it really work? or is the ‘twin spark control’ actually do more? Or is it all just hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huski Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, lotus54 said: I see on the Beta website they say the 2018 has ‘larger oil pump for decreased engine brakeing’. hmmm- I seem to have trouble imagining how a larger oil pump descreases engine braking? Does it really work? or is the ‘twin spark control’ actually do more? Or is it all just hype. I don't get that either,sounds b-----ks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus54 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 out of curiosity, I did look up the part numbers for the 2016 and 2018. there is a change in number for the oil pump. I'm still not sure how that would help engine braking. I suspect sales staff not knowing, and perhaps the new 'twin spark' CDI making the change? Since I've been riding 2-strokes for years and like the minimal engine braking, I am interested. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineaway Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Funny, most 4t riders like the braking. Otherwise they would buy the 2 stroke. Reality is all 4 strokes are big and heavy. But my son at almost 6 foot 5 loves the 4t the way it is and will be buying a 2018 factory if they don't change it much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapezeartist Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 On 25/10/2017 at 6:06 PM, lotus54 said: I see on the Beta website they say the 2018 has ‘larger oil pump for decreased engine brakeing’. hmmm- I seem to have trouble imagining how a larger oil pump descreases engine braking? Does it really work? or is the ‘twin spark control’ actually do more? Or is it all just hype. Something lost in translation perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbillam Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 seen someone riding a new 250 today and certainly looks very nice in the flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cascao Posted January 16, 2018 Report Share Posted January 16, 2018 This is what I found about twin spark at Leonelli site. Seems like an effort to burn all the fuel on the chamber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misscrabstick Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 10/25/2017 at 6:06 PM, lotus54 said: I see on the Beta website they say the 2018 has "larger oil pump for decreased engine braking" An oil pump absorbs some of the engine power because it has a small resistance to being turned due to the pumping, their new pump must offer a little less resistance to being turned, this will of course save .00000000001 of a BHP and you will definitely notice the decrease in engine braking because of it turning easier. NOT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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