nigel dabster Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 On 01/11/2017 at 9:50 PM, imexian said: Well the yam mono did ok, with only one wtc round win.? Didn’t seem to make much difference to there sales, shedloads sold, until the tyz then went a bit wonky.... The yam mono was a game changer and thats why it sold regardless of its higher price. Nothing to do with wtc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 On 11/3/2017 at 9:11 AM, nigel dabster said: The mistakes have been ironed out and the trs is a much better set up, the fact that some parts are interchangeable with gas gas may have helped too. What are you talking about, no parts are interchangable with a gg. And why do you think it is much better set up? Because they have Adam Raga developing the bike!! Not JS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 On 11/3/2017 at 9:11 AM, nigel dabster said: I strongly disagree if you look at and ask the majority of 4rt riders i doubt many choose that bike because of Tony. Its called subconcious marketing for a reason.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc21 Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 I didn't even know about Toni Bou when I was looking for a Trials bike, tried a few bikes and just jelled better with the Montesa than the other 2T's I tried. So at least some out there pick it because they like it better and not because of Bou. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 On 03/11/2017 at 9:13 AM, nigel dabster said: The yam mono was a game changer and thats why it sold regardless of its higher price. Nothing to do with wtc The yam probably had most centre experts on them at the time as they were that good. Anybody who swapped mounts got better . When your mates start beating you you follow suit. I always look at what local riders do when they change bikes - better - worse - no difference then make a decision . add in cost , reliability, colour , parts I already have etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 18 hours ago, faussy said: What are you talking about, no parts are interchangable with a gg. And why do you think it is much better set up? Because they have Adam Raga developing the bike!! Not JS clutch is interchangeable, wheels brakes forks, kickstart looks very similar?. the bike is so gas gas in feel when i tried one back to back i couldnt tell which was which . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 18 hours ago, faussy said: Its called subconcious marketing for a reason.... Do you mean subliminal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricky dicky Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 A British rider will be the Beta number 1 rider. Fajardo will be moving brands too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 4 hours ago, nigel dabster said: clutch is interchangeable, wheels brakes forks, kickstart looks very similar?. the bike is so gas gas in feel when i tried one back to back i couldnt tell which was which . The wheels forks and brakes are interchangable on all trials bikes. Again, Raga was GGs development rider for the last 10+ years, so no surprise that it feels like a GG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, tricky dicky said: A British rider will be the Beta number 1 rider. Fajardo will be moving brands too. Really? Id imagine they would want someone capable of a top 10. Dibs is the only one capable of this and it cant be him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgas Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 It’s the eicma show in Italy tomorrow where a lot of new bikes are unveiled and riders announced in different teams etc,so we could possibly find out there, if it’s a Brit it must be jack price or iwan Roberts , I wouldn’t really call either a number one rider though purely for lack of gp class experience ,il take a bet that matteo grattarola will be there man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffergm Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Matteo posted something semi recently on Instagram that gave me the impression he was leaving GG. I guess we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, faussy said: The wheels forks and brakes are interchangable on all trials bikes. Again, Raga was GGs development rider for the last 10+ years, so no surprise that it feels like a GG so when you said no parts you meant a fair few then? Raga didnt ride the bike till it was finished. Edited November 7, 2017 by nigel dabster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faussy Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, nigel dabster said: so when you said no parts you meant a fair few then? Raga didnt ride the bike till it was finished. The wheels, brakes and forks are pretty much standard across all makes, and have been for years. Sure they share the same tyres, levers, grips, footrests, chains, sprockets, carburetors, radiator fluid, petrol, gearbox oil. Sure theyre the same bike really If you believe that, you would believe anything. Edited November 7, 2017 by faussy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel dabster Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 I certainly didnt believe you when you said NO PARTS are the same. Now you say lots are. Which is it? Clutch included oe excluded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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