croatan Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Scroll down to the yoke set about 3/4's of the page, down. I am looking at the swap of a '97 Beta techno 38mm fork and complete yokes, on to my '86 Reflex http://www.thetwinshockshop.co.uk/parts.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishsteve Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 I fitted parallel yokes to my tlr it saves cutting the frame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 All you have done by fitting parallel yokes is increase the trail, so it takes more effort to turn now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bashplate Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 not sure that's right Allan......but either way, cutting the frame is WAAAAAAYYYyyyyyy cheeper than parallel trees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Unfortunately some so called experts (usually ones that manufacture parts) dont understand the basics of steering geometry. Making the forks looks steeper is assumed to be a good thing. If it is acheived by merely altering the offset of one of the yokes it increases trail. ( Unless you increase the offset of both yokes to compensate - in which case you end up with tiller like steering and the mass of the forks and front wheel acting on a long lever around the steering head bearings). If it is done by altering the rake angle of the frame it decreases trail. If you dont want to cut the frame the simplest options are to put longer shocks on the rear or drop the stanchions through the yokes. Edited November 22, 2017 by alan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slip_kid Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 That man Alan is a smart one, but here are some links with good information on the subject. After reading these articles I decided to limit my overall efforts to the foot pegs. I couldn't convince my self cutting the frame would lead me to where I wanted to go. Many applaud the results. I just think I had more questions after reading a bit. I really like the first link. http://www.trials.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9348&sid=0cfc5184470361131cd8c6386e8c65de https://tonyfoale.com/Articles/RakeEx/RakeEx.htm Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croatan Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Thanks Slip_Kid, what a wealth of info. I thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2 Posted December 27, 2017 Report Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 10:42 AM, slip_kid said: That man Alan is a smart one, but here are some links with good information on the subject. After reading these articles I decided to limit my overall efforts to the foot pegs. I couldn't convince my self cutting the frame would lead me to where I wanted to go. Many applaud the results. I just think I had more questions after reading a bit. I really like the first link. http://www.trials.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9348&sid=0cfc5184470361131cd8c6386e8c65de https://tonyfoale.com/Articles/RakeEx/RakeEx.htm Have fun. For some reason that first website transposes "steep" to "spam", so whenever you see "spam", read it as "steep" or "steeper" to make proper sens of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricole 63 Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Hello Avant de couper un cadre,une simple curiosite https://www.google.com/search?q=lagar+concept&rlz=1C1AVNG_enFR673FR673&oq=lagar+concept&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4.8321j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Comme je precise toujours,je ne touche jamais de royalties quand je conseille un produit,mais juste qu'il parait interressant. Claude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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