duggan Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Hello can someone tell me how a sidecar trial is observed? Edited April 4, 2018 by duggan Mistake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilks Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Read this.Marking the same as Solo but passenger must not touch the ground http://www.southeasttrialscombine.org.uk/TSR22B ACU Handbook.pdf Edited November 28, 2017 by bilks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2stroke4stroke Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 In the days when I had an outfit the observing was remarkably generous. As long as the suspension was being violently bounced whilst at a standstill it seemed a five was not given. But I have not been at an event in recent years to know what it's like now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai-ty Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'm a big fan of sidecars. Road and road race sidecars. One of my favourite vehicles I owned was the Triumph workshop hack I built. Unit 650 iron head motor in a rigid frame with a rigid sidecar wheel. What fun! What outrageous fun! Fastest thing round a roundabout in the wet. However, I digress. Watched a fair bit of pre 65 sidecar vids on You Tube. Sorry, I just don't get it. I don't see the point at all in sidecar trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon v8 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 I ask them what they want their score to be,and stick that down ! Tripods seem to be a law unto themselves, I wouldn't dare to guess what their score should be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabie Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 the passenger can't dab or touch trees, etc - that bit is straight forward the difficult bit is when is a stop a stop - its really a different test in sidecars, especially pre65 if the sections are laid out in a certain way - eg go down a hill or round a tree, turn sharp and then straight up a big hill - that does seam to involve a very long pause as the engine is wound up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p@ul250 Posted December 31, 2017 Report Share Posted December 31, 2017 I always do my best to keep the outfit moving and drive round turns. But sometimes the sections are just laid out so tight that you have to hop the outfit (something I'm not good at). You can always tell when the section has been plotted by someone with sidecar knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timp Posted January 4, 2018 Report Share Posted January 4, 2018 I was once told by a top sidecar rider that" stop for a one" would be far better for sidecars as they struggle to keep forward motion in tight sections. Either the standard of riders is poorer now or the sections are set badly. Not sure which but observing sidecars is very difficult! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabie Posted January 6, 2018 Report Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 1:15 PM, timp said: ... the sections are set badly .... This is the real hard bit the course plotter needs to think in a sidecar mindset - very difficult because not all have ridden sidecars, etc what you lay out that might be really good for a sidecar can be main road for solo, and vice versa - what is easy for a solo can be really hard for a sidecar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windwelder Posted January 10, 2018 Report Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 28/11/2017 at 5:22 PM, jon v8 said: I ask them what they want their score to be,and stick that down ! Tripods seem to be a law unto themselves, I wouldn't dare to guess what their score should be. A good way to understand the whole sidecar thing is to bolt one to that matchless, just think you wouldn’t need a side stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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